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RE: Measured Internet good v. "bad" traffic


From: "David Schwartz" <davids () webmaster com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:09:50 -0700



I mean if the traffic were unrealistically to increase so that
bad traffic was
50% of all traffic we would all have to double our circuit and
router capacity
and you either pass that cost on directly (charge for extra
usage) or indirectly
(increase the $ per Mb) to the user.

I think you're right to say that if thats not acceptable to the
user then usage
based billing should be avoided for them but ultimately they will
still incur
the cost as you increase prices over time to foot the cost of increasing
overheads.

        Analogically, imagine if Burger King kept getting shipments of buns that
they didn't want but still had to pay for. Their customers would get pretty
pissed if BK added an 'unwanted bun' charge to their bill (absent specific
prior agreement). I pay for the food I order, not the food BK's suppliers
ship to BK. Of course, it's reasonable for BK to raise their prices for the
costs of having to deal with the unwanted food.

        I sympathize with the customer. There is no reason he should pay for
traffic he did not request and does not want. If unwanted traffic raises
your cost of providing the service for which you are paid (providing wanted
traffic) then you should raise your rates.

        In principle, one could certainly enter into an agreement where the
customer agrees to bear the costs of unwanted traffic in exchange for a
lower rate. But I certainly wouldn't assume the customer agreed to pay for
traffic he doesn't want and didn't ask for unless the contract explicitly
says so.

        And for those people entering into contracts, make sure the contract is
clear about what happens with DoS attacks and where the billable traffic is
measured. Otherwise you might be pretty surprised if you get a bill for
250Mbps of traffic when you contracted for a 45Mbps circuit.

        For those dealing with contracts already in place, if your provider argues
that you are responsible for all attack traffic no matter what, ask them if
that means you could possibly get billed for 1Gbps of traffic even though
you only bought a T1.

        DS



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