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Re: Independent space from ARIN
From: Yakov Rekhter <yakov () juniper net>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:20:13 -0700
Dave,
On 4/14/2003 at 16:33:34 -0400, Brandon Ross said:On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Kris Foster wrote:Was this tongue in cheek?Nope.I am not an economist, but this is a sure fire way to destroy the interne
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as we know it today.Why is this so hard to believe? Real estate is mostly a free market, and that seems to perform pretty well for the most part. How is address space that different? Please explain how you believe this would destroy the internet.There's a lot more available real estate than available v4 address space. That's the biggest one. Second, groups that make the Internet go aren't necessarily the ones who can afford the address space. Third, there's no root owner of the address space, so who is going to sell it? But really, you just need the first one: small space. The relatively small pool means that a large company with lots of money could buy the whole ARIN chunk of the Internet. Speculators would probably buy address space and leave it unused, much like they do for domain names. Address space would have to be bought and sold on arbitrary borders, resulting in massive fragmentation of the tables. On the good side, address-based lawsuits would revitalize our flagging litigous economy ;-)
(in a shameless self-promotion) there was a paper written a while ago by myself, Paul Resnick and Steve Bellovin on the topic of charging for IP addresses: Rekhter, Y., Resnick, P., Bellovin, S., "Financial Incentives for Route Aggregation and Efficient Address Utilization in the Internet", Coordination the Internet, MIT Press, 1997 Yakov.
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- Re: Independent space from ARIN, (continued)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Dan Hollis (Apr 15)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Mark Borchers (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Bradley Dunn (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Jeff McAdams (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Stephen Sprunk (Apr 14)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Kris Foster (Apr 14)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Brandon Ross (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Brandon Ross (Apr 14)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Dave Israel (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Yakov Rekhter (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN bmanning (Apr 14)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Brandon Ross (Apr 14)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Brandon Ross (Apr 14)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Dave Israel (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN sigma (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Stephen Sprunk (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Dave Israel (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Owen DeLong (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN steve uurtamo (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Andrea Abrahamsen (Apr 14)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Stephen J. Wilcox (Apr 14)