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RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?
From: "Derek Samford" <dsamford () fastduck net>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:24:24 -0400
I can't say personally I like the Foundry's. When I was testing (granted this was 2 years ago.) I saw some traffic when they were under near wireline load and holding full tables. I'm sure their vastly improved, just as Riverstone has. But Foundry's CLI just doesn't cut it for me. Again, the Foundry bias is fairly old, and I have a couple in the lab waiting for me to test new code. But I can't go back to their CLI after using RS for so long. Derek
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf
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Daniel Golding Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:23 PM To: jeffrey.arnold; Nanog Subject: RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? I'm a big fan of both Foundry and Riverstone, as BGP speaking routers. I've had great luck with both. Foundry has some annoying bugs at first, but these seem to have been resolved. I recommend both. - Daniel GoldingOn Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Deepak Jain wrote: :: Boxes like Foundry, Extreme, Redback and many others all talk
BGP
:: (at least to a first approximation) but is their lack of use in :: the core/edge/CPE a lack of scale, stability, performance or
just
:: interest? :: Foundry makes a very good, very stable bgp speaker. I've had them in
my
network alongside cisco's and juniper's for a couple of years now,
and
i've never run into any bgp implementation problems that i wouldconsidermajor. A few annoying bugs here and there, but nothing significantlyworsethan C or J. Beyond the fact that not too many people are familiar with foundry's gear, I tend to think that foundry has lost face in the service
provider
world for non-bgp related issues. ACL problems and CAM size issues
have
come up in really large installs (multi GBps, hundreds of thousands
of
flows, etc). Foundry is also behind cisco and juniper in features -
GRE
and netflow/sflow come to mind. The ACL and CAM issues are supposedly fixed in foundry's jetcore
chipset
boxes, but i haven't seen any of those yet. Sflow is now an option,
and
from what i hear, their implementation is very very good. Overall,foundrystill makes a good box - when you figure in the cost factor, it
becomes
agreat box. I've also played with extreme, but the last i checked, they were
*way*
behind foundry/cisco/juniper in terms of their bgp stability and
feature
set. Overall my experience with extreme has not been a pleasant one.
I
know some people who love them however, so who knows. They seem to
make
good/fast layer 2 gear, but i've had some scary results with their
layer
3stuff. -jba __ [jba () analogue net] :: analogue.networks.nyc :: http://analogue.net
Current thread:
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?, (continued)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Neil J. McRae (Sep 04)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Peter van Dijk (Sep 04)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Jim Segrave (Sep 04)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Paul Wouters (Sep 04)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? J.A. Terranson (Sep 04)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? jeffrey.arnold (Sep 04)
- RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Derek Samford (Sep 04)
- RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? alex (Sep 04)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Simon Leinen (Sep 04)
- RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Daniel Golding (Sep 04)
- RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Derek Samford (Sep 04)
- RE: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Derek Samford (Sep 04)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Patrick Evans (Sep 05)
- Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper? Miquel van Smoorenburg (Sep 04)