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Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?
From: Rafi Sadowsky <rafi-nanog () meron openu ac il>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:21:05 +0300 (IDT)
## On 2002-09-10 09:45 -0400 alex () yuriev com typed:
Hi Eliot Maybe I'm missing something obvious but do how you get rate-limiting per TCP *flow* with Cisco IOS ?It is more trouble than its worth.
IMHO there are other problems beside SPAM that can use per flow shaping/rate-limiting
SPAM is not a technical problem. It is a social problem. Using technical methods is not going to solve the problem. In the end, every time we come up with another method of detecting and blocking spam, another method is bypassing this defense is going to show up.
How about using a combination of technical and "social" measures For example in a Cyber Cafe use passive technical measures to count the total number of outbound SMTP sessions and charge 1$ per Email over an average rate of 2 Emails/minute and 10$ per Email exceeding a rate of 10 per minute
Alex
-- Rafi
Current thread:
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?, (continued)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Eliot Lear (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Scott Francis (Sep 17)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? John M. Brown (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? alex (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Vadim Antonov (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Vadim Antonov (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Rafi Sadowsky (Sep 10)
- RE: How do you stop outgoing spam? Tony Hain (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Eliot Lear (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Brad Knowles (Sep 11)
- RE: How do you stop outgoing spam? Rafi Sadowsky (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Tim Thorne (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Petri Helenius (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Rafi Sadowsky (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? David Charlap (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Barton F Bruce (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Paul Vixie (Sep 10)