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Re: More federal management of key components of the Internet needed


From: Rick Irving <rirving () onecall net>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:50:01 -0500


 Hey, Sean, if it is against the law to yell FIRE in a crowded
movie theatre in America...

 Why isn't it against the law to (s)Yell "FUD" at Congress ?

  :\

Sean Donelan wrote:

It's starting already.

  It started with the USA Patriot Act, the beginning paroxysms of
rigor mortis
of the American Constitutional Rights under a new regime, and the 
"virtual" death of the Bill of Rights....

  This is just a continuation of an ongoing trend. (IMHO)

  Remember, after 10 years of being declared "paranoid", and an
"Enemy of the State", Abbie Hoffman was -absolutely right-!
 (CoinTelPro)

  Did anyone notice that under the new laws, 

    -== Watergate is perfectly LEGAL  ? ==-

</rant- but, let that one sink in....really.>

  Yes, I know Susan... switching to on-topic. :P


I don't understand how giving the US federal government management control
of key components of the Internet will make it more secure.

  Neither do I. For example, I recently received a joint FBI/DOJ
letter...

(I believe if I leave out details, I am allowed to mention this
here...)

 It informed me that, 10 MONTHS AGO, a list was found that had an
-email domain-
of ours, as a -possibly- affected -server-. 
(There is no such actual server, it is only an e-mail domain.. )

  And, wanted me to see of there was any strange activity, somewhere
in a
4 MONTH time frame, that I could see....
 
  Oh, BTW, they had NO information on methodology, layer 3 protocol
affected,
ports, IP's.. and stated as such.  -=Nothing=-

(Not even a valid server name)

 And, ONLY, 10 MONTHS after the fact!
    
 Why, do you know in Internet Years, that would be.....
  urrr.....that would be... carry the zero's...square the root,
  hrmmm...
   I would be DEAD  ? :*

 And these are the people that are going to -=improve=- security ?

 How, by sentencing Perps to death by OLD AGE ?  :D

What steps could
the US federal government take which non-governmental organizations aren't
or couldn't do?  Putting a root name server on a military base isn't
really going to protect it from DDOS attacks.

Should root servers be located in the "middle" of backbones, instead of stub
networks?  Or do networks naturally "grow" towards root servers?

http://www.idg.net/ic_958962_1793_1-1681.html
  "More federal management of key components of the Internet
  infrastructure is needed, Julian and Brady agreed. That could include
  tax incentives or direct federal funding for private companies and
  public organizations managing key DNS servers to secure their systems,
  all of which are currently operated as a free service by companies,
  government entities and non-profit organizations.

  "This showcases a specific vulnerability that requires the government to
  get involved," Julian said. "If you run a DNS server what is your
  monetary incentive to secure it? There is none.

  Wrong, the monetary incentive is that -=your=- system remains
operational,
 and your network UP, and responding.... when others don't.

 What, no one in congress associates "uptime" with a "monetary
advantage" in business ?

 No WONDER they all bought from Enron.

 * S *

(Just kidding)

This is the number one
  area of focus that the government should have."

  I think they should be focusing on terrorist activity, if you ask
me.

  * shrug *

.Richard.

-= FUD! it isn't a sales tool, it's a way of Managing a Nation. =-

 "God Bless America, and the American Constitution."

 I leave you with the Oath of Office of the American President:

     "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
     faithfully execute the Office of the
     President of the United States, and will to
     the best of my ability, preserve, protect and
     defend the -=constitution=- of the United
     States."

Ok. One last Quote, from U2:

  "A Politicians Promise on the Day of Election"


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