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Re: Federal Reserve Risks Collapse Re: Risk of Internet collapse grows


From: <sgorman1 () gmu edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:01:09 -0800


Is this selective argumentation?  I agree that the proper assumptions 
need to be made for research.  This is the whole reason I started 
posting here in the first place, and the request I made at the end of 
the post - help making sure assumptions are correct.

What you decided to attack on the post was the defense of another 
researchers options of data and how current that data was.  He used 
what was available to him at the time, end of statement.  

If you could you use your expertise and creativity to help the 
research community produce better research instead of shooting 
everything down after the fact, something postitive might actually 
come from the effort.  

"But misunderstanding the risks and vulnerabilities is worse because
it diverts resources away from the real ones."

Perhaps giving contructive advice would be away to avoid such a 
pitfall.  Nahhhhh - it is much more fun to flame.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Thursday, November 28, 2002 6:10 pm
Subject: Federal Reserve Risks Collapse Re: Risk of Internet collapse 
grows


On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 sgorman1 () gmu edu wrote:
That said a few things should be kept in mind with academic 
work.  The
time from when work is done until it appears in publication is 
quite
legthy, especially when peer reviewed (the Grubesic et al 
article was
peer reviewed).  I saw his paper presented in the Fall of 2001, 
which> means he probably did the research in the spring of 2001, 
and the
latest data available was Boardwatch 2000.  so, you end with a 
lag in
Internet time that seems horrendous.  One of the problems with

The paper would have the same problems in 2000.  It starts with bad
assumptions.  Age doesn't improve bad assumptions.

Suppose I wrote an academic paper about the design of the Federal
Reserve Banking System.  After carefull analysis of the map at
http://www.federalreserve.gov/otherfrb.htm (street addresses 
available
at http://www.federalreserve.gov/fraddress.htm) I write a fully 
footnotedpaper that the Federal Reserve system is vulnerable to 
the destruction
of the board in Washington DC and twelve banks in Boston, New York,
Philadelphia, Cleveland, Richmond, Atlanta, Chicago, St. Louis,
Minneapolis, Kansas City, Dallas and San Francisco.  The US banking
system would collapse, ATMs would stop, paychecks wouldn't get 
cashed,
checks couldn't be cleared, etc.  I would miss Alan Greenspan, but 
that'snot how the US banking system works.

The Federal Reserve system does have vulnerabilities.  So does the
Internet (and the post office, and the telephone network, and ...)
But misunderstanding the risks and vulnerabilities is worse because
it diverts resources away from the real ones.






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