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Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address
From: David Lesher <wb8foz () nrk com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:05:20 -0500 (EST)
Thus spake "Johannes Ullrich" <jullrich () euclidian com>The article is comparing the relatively 'inert' diesel fuel to the aircraft fuel that caused the devastation at the WTC. Did the authors of this article ever hear about heating oil tanks?
Unnamed Administration sources reported that Stephen Sprunk said:
Jet fuel ak.a kerosene is essentially the same thing as diesel. The only reason it's 'inert' is that it's too dense to explode like gasoline. You have to mix in oxidizers (e.g. fertilizer) or atomize it mechanically (e.g. BLU-82) before ignition if you want a big boom.
Essentially is a big understatement. Jet A **is** Kerosene. The highest grade, best inspected, Kero around, but still Kero. When it flunks one of those 20-odd tests, it's sold off as Kero. (At ~~40% of the JetA price...) Diesel, and #2 Heating Oil are slightly thicker but in this context not a whole lot different. [Diesel has a higher 'cetane' rating, very roughly equivalent to octane in gasoline..] Note that Conrail burn[ed,s] Kero in their locomotives; not sure why. Eons ago, [it seems..] I worked at a tank farm where we ..spooled.. hundreds of thousands of barrels [1 bbl == 42 USGal.] of gasoline and 'distillates' through local storage [tanks]. As I recall, we pumped the major airport 10 miles away just shy of half a million gallons of Jet A per day. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz () nrk com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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