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Re: list problems?
From: "Rachel K. Warren" <rachel () plur net>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 06:22:50 -0700
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 09:07:25PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:20:08PM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:What I firmly believe is that a college graduate is more likely to be sucessful and be promoted, particularly before they are 30.All that matters it that you have the knowledge. It doesn't matter if you got it from school or from experience, just that you got it.
If/when one wants to move high up the managerial ranks, there usually is a glass ceiling without a degree. Look at just about any companies profiles of their senior managers or chief officers - just having a BS/BA is rare - it's usually MBAs. Also, one usually has an engineering degree if they are creating the network hardware, e.g., ASICs. It's difficult to create the hardware if you don't already have the mathematical and theoretical background. Then there is the theory that is behind the technical knowledge (of routing). For example, a PhD named Dijkstra's created an algorithm named after himself, which is used in OSPF today (personally, I like Dijkstra for his COBOL quote the best ;-). Of course, there are exceptions to every rule - I've had managers and executive officers in the same companies I worked at who did not have degrees. But more often than not, the degree was there.
Can we all just leave it at that, and try to get back to something operational?
I don't know, it's been more interesting than reading the repetitive DDOS and NAT threads. :) Rachel -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell
Current thread:
- Re: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems?, (continued)
- Re: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems? Jim Hickstein (May 22)
- Re: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems? Vadim Antonov (May 23)
- Re: list problems? Leo Bicknell (May 22)
- Re: list problems? up (May 22)
- Re: list problems? Richard Irving (May 22)
- Re: list problems? Craig Partridge (May 22)
- Re: list problems? Steve Gibbard (May 22)
- Re: list problems? Paul Vixie (May 22)
- Re: list problems? Leo Bicknell (May 22)
- Re: list problems? Richard A Steenbergen (May 22)
- Re: list problems? Rachel K. Warren (May 23)
- Re: list problems? Henry Yen (May 23)
- Re: list problems? Patrick W. Gilmore (May 23)
- Re: list problems? Henry Yen (May 23)
- Re: list problems? Shawn Solomon (May 22)
- RE: list problems? Christopher J. Wolff (May 22)
- RE: list problems? Eric Germann (May 22)
- Re: list problems? + Certification or College degrees? Mark Kent (May 23)
- Re: list problems? Richard Irving (May 23)
- Re: list problems? Robert Beverly (May 24)
- Re: list problems? Richard Irving (May 24)