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RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking
From: Larry Rosenman <ler () lerctr org>
Date: 24 Jul 2002 13:27:07 -0500
Agreed here. Has this even got a bill number yet? On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 13:15, Derek Samford wrote:
I second that. If I see any of my clients having any sort of malicious activity directed at them, then there is no chance of me allowing their traffic through. I would be more than happy to send all their traffic to packet hell. Large corporations do not get any special consideration if it comes down to the stability of my network vs. receiving their traffic. Derek -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of James Thomason Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:10 PM To: Marshall Eubanks Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Would malicious actions on the part of copyright holders violate the AUP of most networks? Or are service providers more willing to tolerate denial of service attacks by large corporations than say, spam? If this legislation is passed, they certainly will earn Null0 on mine. Regards, James Thomason On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Marshall Eubanks wrote:Thought this would be considered on-topic as guess who would have to clean up the resulting messes... Regards Marshall Eubanks ----- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> ----- From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> Subject: FC: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking To: politech () politechbot com Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:29:35 -0400 X-URL: http://www.mccullagh.org/ X-URL: Politech is at http://www.politechbot.com/ http://news.com.com/2100-1023-945923.html?tag=politech Could Hollywood hack your PC? By Declan McCullagh July 23, 2002, 4:45 PM PT WASHINGTON--Congress is about to consider an entertainment industry proposal that would authorize copyright holders todisablePCs used for illicit file trading. A draft bill seen by CNET News.com marks the boldest politicaleffortto date by record labels and movie studios to disrupt peer-to-peer networks that they view as an increasingly dire threat to theirbottomline. Sponsored by Reps. Howard Berman, D-Calif., and Howard Coble,R-N.C.,the measure would permit copyright holders to perform nearlyuncheckedelectronic hacking if they have a "reasonable basis" to believethatpiracy is taking place. Berman and Coble plan to introduce the10-pagebill this week. The legislation would immunize groups such as the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America from all state and federal laws if they disable, block or otherwise impair a "publicly accessible peer-to-peer network." Anyone whose computer was damaged in the process must receive the permission of the U.S. attorney general before filing a lawsuit,and asuit could be filed only if the actual monetary loss was more than $250. According to the draft, the attorney general must be givencompletedetails about the "specific technologies the copyright holderintendsto use to impair" the normal operation of the peer-to-peernetwork.Those details would remain secret and would not be divulged to the public. The draft bill doesn't specify what techniques, such as viruses, worms, denial-of-service attacks, or domain name hijacking, wouldbepermissible. It does say that a copyright-hacker should not delete files, but it limits the right of anyone subject to an intrusiontosue if files are accidentally erased. [...]------------------------------------------------------------------------ -POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech:http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.htmlThis message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/------------------------------------------------------------------------ -Like Politech? Make a donation here:http://www.politechbot.com/donate/------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ End forwarded message ----- -- Regards Marshall Eubanks T.M. Eubanks Multicast Technologies, Inc 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609 e-mail : tme () multicasttech com http://www.multicasttech.com Test your network for multicast : http://www.multicasttech.com/mt/ Status of Multicast on the Web : http://www.multicasttech.com/status/index.html
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- Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Marshall Eubanks (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking James Thomason (Jul 24)
- RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Derek Samford (Jul 24)
- RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Larry Rosenman (Jul 24)
- RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking blitz (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Adam Rothschild (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Michael Smith (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Ralph Doncaster (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking James Thomason (Jul 25)
- RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Derek Samford (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking James Thomason (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Pete Kruckenberg (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Petr Swedock (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Joseph T. Klein (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Joseph T. Klein (Jul 25)