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Be glad you're not in the U.K.


From: blitz <blitz () macronet net>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:07:43 -0400


And coming soon to the US!



BBC News Online:  Sci/Tech
Wednesday, 17 July, 2002, 09:15 GMT 10:15 UK
Switch on for state snooping

Police forces want to plug in to lots of networks

>From August net service providers in the UK will be obliged to carry out
surveillance of some customers' web habits on behalf of the police.
Controversial laws passed in 2000 oblige large communications companies
to install technology that allows one in 10,000 of their customers to be
watched.

The information gathered about what people look at on the web, the
content of e-mail messages and their phone conversations will be passed
to the police or a government monitoring station.

The demands have been criticised by experts who say the law conflicts
with basic guarantees of privacy and that the government is not doing
enough to help pay for the installation of the surveillance systems.

Data hoover

The controversial Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act was passed in
October 2000 and gave law enforcement agencies sweeping powers to snoop
on the electronic lives of citizens.

" It's the internet equivalent of a telephone tap "
Roland Perry, Linx

The Act demands that organisations it dubs Communication Service
Providers (CSP) - broadly anyone that helps people keep in touch via the
web, fax machine or phone - install technology that can automatically
monitor what many of their customers are doing.

It also demands that service providers start monitoring a customer
within 24 hours of being told that the police or other investigation
agencies want to snoop on them.

The information collected must also be passed on electronically to the
agency which asked for the snooping to start.

A spokesman for the Home Office said 1 August was the day on which the
new surveillance regime would start, even though the technology to do
the watching are yet to be installed.

He said only law enforcement agencies would have the power to ask for
the surveillance to start.

Police would have to get a warrant from the Home Office before they
could ask for surveillance to start, he said, and it would only be used
to gather evidence about serious crimes.

Data delivery

Roland Perry, public policy director for the London Internet Exchange
which interconnects the networks of net service companies, said the
government was still working out how best to put the surveillance
systems in place.

"It's a very long-term project," he said. "The whole thing will be done
on a one-to-one basis with the individual companies concerned."

" Agencies have to make a judgement whether it's worth making a request
if it costs a few hundred pounds to do it "

Ian Brown, Foundation for Information Policy Research

The government is also currently working out what types of information
it wants from CSPs and how it will be delivered.

"In theory, an interception capability would deliver all the data," said
Mr Perry. "It's the internet equivalent of a telephone tap."

The government is hoping that its work on automatic surveillance will
become a European standard and be widely adopted.

Costly communication

Service providers have asked for help to buy the equipment needed to set
up the permanent interception capability.

"The Home Office has said it would contribute £20m to this but the net
industry has said it will cost a lot more than that," said Ian Brown,
director of the Foundation for Information Policy Research.

The Internet Service Providers Association has warned about the
potentially huge costs of installing surveillance equipment to meet the
demands of the RIP Act and the recently passed Anti-Terrorism, Crime and
Security Act.

A spokesman for the organisation said it was still seeking clarification
over the types of data its members were supposed to be catching, how
long it had to be stored for and who would pay for the storage.

Mr Brown said one of the few safeguards on the snooping system was the
fact that the agencies asking for the surveillance to be carried out
will be charged to use it.

"This means agencies have to make a
judgement whether it's worth making a request if it costs a few hundred
pounds to do it," said Mr Brown.


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