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Re: Notes on the Internet for Bell Heads
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:36:12 -0700
I don't know which is scarier. Lucent/Bell Labs trying to design the next generation Internet architecture, or Cisco trying to design the next generation DCN/SS7 architecture.
the contest is keen. for a nice view of this insanity fueled by greed, paranoia, greed, and oh greed, see the ieprep wg of the ietf.
The public telephone network is still the largest network on the planet
yup, and it transports less. is there a lesson about complexity in that?
How do you explain Internet security to a telco engineer. Or the concept that the Internet doesn't have a LERG, but somehow ISPs figure out how to get traffic from point A to point B. Or the biggie, that stuff is expected to fail, so that's why you buy lots of simple, cheap ones instead of one big, expensive, never-fail box.
dave meyer has been trying in draft-ymbk-arch-guidelines-03.txt, and will give a bit of a talk on this at ie-piggy on sunday. randy
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- Notes on the Internet for Bell Heads Sean Donelan (Jul 11)
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- Re: Notes on the Internet for Bell Heads JC Dill (Jul 11)
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- Re: Notes on the Internet for Bell Heads Sean Donelan (Jul 11)
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