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Re: RE: OT: Interesting email I received
From: Pat Myrto <pat () rwing ORG>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:54:59 -0800 (PST)
I can still reach it from here in the NorthWest as of 2:45 PST. So the plug aint pulled yet. Qwest would likely have to make sure all the i's are dotted and t's crossed before dropping it at insistance of lawyers, etc... Be interesting to see if its still there tomorrow. Pat M/HW John Neiberger has declared that:
Hmm...I'm still able to reach that site as of 3:30 Mountain time. Perhaps his service hasn't been discontinued after all. We can only hope, though. Surely Qwest won't continue to let this bonehead use their network. Perhaps this is actually a Qwest front company and they're trying to lure people into using their bulkmailing services. By doing this they can get a lot of the bulk mails to at least have the same set of source IP addresses making them easier to filter for the rest of us. :-) Sort of like a honey pot for idiots, because in this case they'd even be paying to use it. John ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ---- On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Joe Blanchard (jblanchard () wyse com) wrote:I just had to call that number on his web page and ask if it was some sort of joke, The guy there "Paul" didn't have any idea that his services were disrupted, and he even seemed excited at the prospect of doing some Bulk/Spam Email for me. When I mentioned I couldn't get to his webpage He seemed surprised. I ended the convo with "You should really read the TOS with your ISP" <click> hahaha. I would love to hear the conversation between him and Qwest Tech/Support. Cheers! -Joe---------- From: Daniel Lark[SMTP:dlark () elmresources com] Reply To: dlark () elmresources com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:04 PM To: 'Christopher A. Woodfield'; 'Dan Hollis' Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: OT: Interesting email I received Guess Qwest already yanked 'em. Yay!!! -dan traceroute to 65.114.61.35 (65.114.61.35), 30 hops max, 38bytepackets1 host1.elmresources.com (208.253.213.1) 0.588 ms 0.558ms 0.474ms2 958.Serial1-1.GW6.SCL1.ALTER.NET (157.130.213.173)10.282 ms9.652ms 13.142 ms 3 168.at-5-0-0.XR4.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.54) 9.691ms 10.168ms9.997 ms 4 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.97) 9.978 ms10.341 ms9.870 ms 5 0.so-6-0-0.XL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.142) 15.447ms 16.494ms15.253 ms 6 0.so-3-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.2) 14.642 ms15.195 ms14.934 ms 7 184.ATM7-0.BR3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.197) 15.544ms 14.990ms15.905 ms 8 sjo-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.97) 28.136 ms27.808 ms27.985 ms 9 sjo-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.118) 29.459 ms28.163 ms27.818 ms 10 sjo-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.2) 28.376 ms27.821 ms28.014 ms 11 iah-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.145) 68.262 ms68.128 ms68.277 ms 12 iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.2) 68.851 ms69.238 ms69.663 ms 13 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.194) 101.938 ms103.496 ms101.837 ms 14 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) 94.106 ms93.772 ms93.874 ms 15 * * * -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On BehalfOfChristopher A. Woodfield Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:56 PM To: Dan Hollis Cc: Daniel Lark; nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: OT: Interesting email I received Given the latency on the last two hops, I'll bet this is aDSL line,orsomeone's taken it upon themselves to render whatever circuit theyhaveuseless...-C On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 12:43:10PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote:On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Daniel Lark wrote:-----Original Message----- From: National ISP [mailto:admin () national-isp org] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:13 PM To: dlark () elmresources com Subject: Bulk email ISP National ISP Co. is a business class bulk emailfriendly ISP.We are dedicated to supporting your company with your email advertising program. Have the "Peace of Mind", knowing that you will not be shut down by your present ISP. our website address is >> WWW.NATIONAL-ISP.ORGTracing the route to NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35) [...] 15 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) [AS 209]132 msec100msec 144 msec16 208.47.124.58 [AS 209] 388 msec 852 msec 608 msec 17 NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35) [AS 209] 524 msec 584msec 268msecWell, qwest *is* bulk-friendly... -Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]-- --------------------------- Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil () semihuman com PGP Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Serverversion =5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>RE: OT: Interesting email I received</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <BR> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I just hadto call =that number on his web page</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">and askif it was =some sort of joke, The guy </FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">there = "Paul" didn't have any idea that his</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">serviceswere =disrupted, and he even seemed </FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">excitedat the =prospect of doing some Bulk/Spam </FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Email forme. =</FONT> </P> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">When Imentioned I =couldn't get to his webpage</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">He seemed=surprised. I ended the convo with </FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">"Youshould =really read the TOS with your ISP" <click></FONT> </P> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">hahaha. Iwould love= to hear the conversation between him</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">and Qwest=Tech/Support. </FONT> </P> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Cheers!</FONT><BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-Joe</FONT></P> <UL> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">----------</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS SansSerif">From:</FONT></B> =<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Daniel = Lark[SMTP:dlark () elmresources com]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">ReplyTo:</FONT></B> =<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans = Serif">dlark () elmresources com</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS SansSerif">Sent:</FONT></B> =<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Friday, February 01,2002 2:04 =PM</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">To:</FONT></B> = <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">'Christopher = A. Woodfield'; 'Dan Hollis'</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Cc:</FONT></B> = <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans = Serif">nanog () merit edu</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS SansSerif">Subject:</FONT></B> =<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans = Serif">RE: OT: Interesting email I received</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Guess Qwest alreadyyanked 'em. =Yay!!!</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-dan</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">traceroute to 65.114.61.35 = (65.114.61.35), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 1 host1.elmresources.com = (208.253.213.1) 0.588 ms 0.558 ms 0.474 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 2 = 958.Serial1-1.GW6.SCL1.ALTER.NET (157.130.213.173) 10.282 = ms 9.652</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">ms 13.142 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 3 = 168.at-5-0-0.XR4.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.54) 9.691 ms = 10.168 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">9.997 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 4 = 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.97) 9.978 ms = 10.341 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">9.870 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 5 = 0.so-6-0-0.XL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.142) 15.447 ms = 16.494 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">15.253 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 6 = 0.so-3-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.2) 14.642 ms = 15.195 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">14.934 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 7 = 184.ATM7-0.BR3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.197) 15.544 ms = 14.990 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">15.905 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 8 = sjo-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.97) 28.136 ms 27.808 = ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">27.985 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 9 = sjo-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.118) 29.459 ms = 28.163 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">27.818 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">10 sjo-core-02.inet.qwest.net =(205.171.22.2) 28.376 ms 27.821 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">28.014 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">11 iah-core-01.inet.qwest.net =(205.171.5.145) 68.262 ms 68.128 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">68.277 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">12 iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net =(205.171.31.2) 68.851 ms 69.238 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">69.663 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">13 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net =(205.171.5.194) 101.938 ms 103.496 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">101.837 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">14 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net =(205.171.21.182) 94.106 ms 93.772 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">93.874 ms</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">15 * * *</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">From: owner-nanog () merit edu=[</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A=HREF=3D"mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu">mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu</A></=FONT></U><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">] On Behalf Of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Christopher A.Woodfield</FONT><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent: Friday, February 01,2002 2:56 =PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">To: Dan Hollis</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Cc: Daniel Lark; = nanog () merit edu</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Subject: Re: OT:Interesting email I =received</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Given the latency on thelast two =hops, I'll bet this is a DSL line, or</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">someone's </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">taken it upon themselves torender =whatever circuit they have useless...</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-C</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at12:43:10PM =-0800, Dan Hollis wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002,Daniel Lark =wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > -----Original = Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > From: National ISP = [</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A=HREF=3D"mailto:admin () national-isp org">mailto:admin@national-isp.org</A>=</FONT></U><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">] </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > Sent: Friday, February01, =2002 3:13 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > To: = dlark () elmresources com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > Subject: Bulk email = ISP</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > National ISP Co. is a = business class bulk email friendly ISP.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > We are dedicated to = supporting your company with your</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > email advertising = program.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > Have the "Peace of = Mind", knowing that you will not be</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > shut down by yourpresent =ISP.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > our website address = is >> WWW.NATIONAL-ISP.ORG</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Tracing the route to = NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> [...]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> 15 = atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) [AS 209] 132 msec 100</FONT>= <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">msec 144 msec</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> 16 208.47.124.58 [AS209] =388 msec 852 msec 608 msec</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> 17 NATIONAL-ISP.ORG = (65.114.61.35) [AS 209] 524 msec 584 msec 268</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">msec</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Well, qwest *is* = bulk-friendly...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> -Dan</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> -- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> [-] Omae no subete nokichi wa =ore no mono da. [-]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">---------------------------</FONT><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Christopher A. = Woodfield = rekoil () semihuman com</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">PGP Public Key:</FONT> <BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0xB887618B=" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D=0xB887618B</A></FONT></U> </P> <BR> </UL> </BODY> </HTML>
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