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Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center
From: Chris Kilbourn <kilbo-list () forest net>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:33:42 -0700
In the past few years on NANOG, I've noticed a strong correlation between train derailments and network outages. (Not to discount the backhoe correlation in any way of course...) The question I have is this: If fiber runs are trenched into the railbed, and we know that trains go off of the tracks every now and then, what, if anything, is being done to harden the conduit? Would trenching it deeper help? Has encasing the conduit in a steel-reinforced channel been examined? Or is there something about laying conduit next to track and the accident modalities that I am just missing here? Given this week's higher frequency of rail accidents and their attendant network disruptions, it seems like the cost/benefit of looking at this issue might have shifted a bit. I can only see these right-of-ways becoming increasingly valuable over time and in our post 9/11 environment, this seems to be an area that seems especially vulnerable. Just curious... At 5:26 PM -0400 4/26/02, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Steve Gibbard wrote:Are train derailments common events that don't get much press coverage (or maybe that don't get much coverage unless it's a passenger train), or was this an especially bad week?According to federal records and news reports, train derailments are up about 15% even if you take into account the growth in rail traffic.
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Current thread:
- North American: Train Derailment - West of Winnipeg Sean Donelan (Apr 26)
- Re: North American: Train Derailment - West of Winnipeg Steve Gibbard (Apr 26)
- Re: North American: Train Derailment - West of Winnipeg ben hubbard (Apr 26)
- If you were in a government Cyber-warning center Sean Donelan (Apr 26)
- Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center Chris Kilbourn (Apr 26)
- Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center David Lesher (Apr 26)
- Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center Joel Baker (Apr 26)
- Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center blitz (Apr 26)
- Re: If you were in a government Cyber-warning center herb (Apr 26)
- Re: North American: Train Derailment - West of Winnipeg Steve Gibbard (Apr 26)