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Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ...
From: Alex Bligh <alex () alex org uk>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:34:46 +0100
Firstly, please note the flamewar about NAT breaking or not breaking PMTU discovery is a different flamewar from the RFC1918 numbered links breaking PMTU discovery flamewar. And I am commenting here on neither. The answers to both are clear if you read the relevant docs. However:
That is what I truly love about NAT. It breaks totally inane filth like path mtu discovery.
Allegation of dubious merit aside: Please suggest alternate legacy compatible mechanisms to discover path MTU, or explain why you think fragmenting stuff as a matter of course aides performance, before you dismiss PMTU discovery as inane filth.
I'm sure if someone had an MTU < ethernet on an internal router they wouldn't need NAT breaking path MTU discovery to bring it to their attention.
Like, say, ethernet LAN -> dialup routed connection -> Internet. Or, urm, anything tunnelled between ethernet LANs passing at some point over ethernet. Both, of course, extremely uncommon applications. So now tell me why being unable to do path MTU discovery (somehow) is a good thing? -- Alex Bligh Personal Capacity
Current thread:
- RE: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... ) Roeland Meyer (Sep 07)
- RE: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... ) Jon Mansey (Sep 07)
- Re[3]: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... ) Richard Welty (Sep 07)
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- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... ) Dickson, Brian (Sep 07)
- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... ) Leo Bicknell (Sep 07)
- RE: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... ) Hire, Ejay (Sep 10)
- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Miquel van Smoorenburg (Sep 10)
- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Scott Gifford (Sep 10)
- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Brandin L Claar (Sep 10)
- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Dan Hollis (Sep 10)
- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Alex Bligh (Sep 10)
- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Fletcher E Kittredge (Sep 10)
- Re: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Miquel van Smoorenburg (Sep 10)
- RE: end2end? (was: RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... ) Jon Mansey (Sep 07)