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Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ...
From: "Joel Baker" <lucifer () lightbearer com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:12:07 -0600
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:00:03PM -0700, Marc Slemko wrote:
Right, the tradition has roots at least a few years further back in the hack created by the "poor dialup shell account user" to allow them to get SLIP (and, at some point, CSLIP and PPP) access to the net without needing their own IP assigned by using a shell server they had an account on, with it's IP address. First done in TIA, then SLiRP. That was... 1994 or earlier. And TIA is essentially NAT, implemented in a manner that would be considered peculiar compared to today's common implementations.
TIA was pervasive enough, and causing enough *problems*, that many ISPs were banning it's use, as of fall, 1994 (I can pin it that accurately due to circumstances that only existed during that period, when I was dealing with it). SLiRP was around by, at latest, mid-1995, in response to it. Linux had functional masquerade code at that time, as well, though it was a royal pain to deal with (IE, nothing has changed much :) -- *************************************************************************** Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.com lucifer () lightbearer com http://www.lightbearer.com/~lucifer
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- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ..., (continued)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Randy Bush (Sep 09)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Scott Gifford (Sep 10)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Roeland Meyer (Sep 07)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Jim Shankland (Sep 07)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Roeland Meyer (Sep 07)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Roeland Meyer (Sep 07)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... woody weaver (Sep 09)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Adam McKenna (Sep 09)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Marc Slemko (Sep 09)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Mike Batchelor (Sep 10)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Joel Baker (Sep 10)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 09)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Adam McKenna (Sep 09)
- RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Andy Dills (Sep 10)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... bmanning (Sep 10)
- Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Scott Gifford (Sep 10)
- Re[2]: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Richard Welty (Sep 10)
- Re[2]: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... RJ Atkinson (Sep 10)
- Re[3]: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ... Richard Welty (Sep 10)