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Re: FBI is at it again
From: batz <batsy () vapour net>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:54:39 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Larry Diffey wrote: :Per the following article: <SNIP> it appears as if the FBI now wants to :route ALL Internet traffic through it's central servers!!!! : :I'm gonna stop before I say something that will get me arrested. Or mocked mercilessly. :P I'm willing to bet that it's not an issue of routing all traffic, but the ability to route any traffic. Far be it from me to speculate wildly, but I think this screams CenterTrack. I say the FBI just wants the ability to pick routes an transit them transparently through their network for sniffage. This could be done easily with existing technology (GRE tunnels, MPLS VPN, and others) It would be substantially cheaper to have a vpn that passed through the FBI's AS, whereby they can arbitrarily tell a remote router to route a prefix through their tunnel interface, which goes to fedland, gets looped back to the original router, which also starts advertising the prefix via the other fbi tunnel interface. It's pretty straight forward technically, and almost impossible to detect from layer 3 from the users perspective. It's also way cheaper than a $5-10k PC that requires staff with clearances to operate or even be in the same room with. I would imagine that with the new legislation being passed, you won't so much see g-men with carnivores knocking on your door, but a new configuration requirement for a particular tier of network provider. Just a guess tho. ;) -- batz Reluctant Ninja Defective Technologies
Current thread:
- FBI is at it again Larry Diffey (Oct 26)
- Re: FBI is at it again Brian (Oct 26)
- Re: FBI is at it again Adam Herscher (Oct 27)
- RE: FBI is at it again Tom Thomas (Oct 27)
- Re: FBI is at it again batz (Oct 27)
- Re: FBI is at it again Lucy E. Lynch (Oct 28)
- RE: FBI is at it again Daniel Golding (Oct 29)
- Re: FBI is at it again Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 29)
- RE: FBI is at it again alex (Oct 29)
- Re: FBI is at it again Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 29)
- Re: FBI is at it again Vadim Antonov (Oct 29)
- RE: FBI is at it again Paul Wouters (Oct 30)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: FBI is at it again herb (Oct 26)
- Re: FBI is at it again Steven M. Bellovin (Oct 29)
- Re: FBI is at it again Gordon Cook (Oct 29)