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Re: EMAIL != FTP
From: Adam Rothschild <asr () latency net>
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:58:30 -0400
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 04:36:31PM -0400, Mitch Halmu wrote:
Any North American Network Operator (NANO_) that entrusts control of their networks' communications to a foreign third party is a fool. ORBS is run by one Alan Brown based in New Zealand. IMHO, he's a cyberterrorist.
I do _not_ support the ORBS. While I like with the concept, the implementation (implementor?) is of questionable sanity, and the volume of false positives, in the form of mail from legitimate senders running horribly misconfigured and vulnerable mail servers, is too high.
Being blackholed by New Zealanders should be an insignificant threat to US-based networks. If it starts being a noticeable problem, you have a serious national security breach.
Nobody's arbitrarily blackholing you. There are clearly defined procedures for getting on and off their list. If you choose to ignore them, that's your choice. On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 07:23:16PM -0400, Mitch Halmu wrote:
Our position on MAPS is described clearly at http://www.dotcomeon.com
You could have fixed your open relays in a manner acceptable to your user base, in less time than it took you to make this site. ;) On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 09:11:39AM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
You must not have a roaming staff or are willing to keep telcos wealthy.
I do not understand why one must run an open SMTP relay, or "keep telcos wealthy", to achieve the functionality you desire. -adam
Current thread:
- ORBS (Re: Scanning) E.B. Dreger (May 27)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: ORBS (Re: Scanning) Roeland Meyer (May 27)
- RE: ORBS (Re: Scanning) E.B. Dreger (May 27)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Adam Rothschild (May 27)
- Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning) Steve Sobol (May 27)
- RE: ORBS (Re: Scanning) Derek Balling (May 27)
- RE: ORBS (Re: Scanning) Dan Hollis (May 27)
- RE: ORBS (Re: Scanning) Mitch Halmu (May 27)
- Mitch tries to defend his open relay again (was Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning)) J.D. Falk (May 27)
- Re: Mitch tries to defend his open relay again (was Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning)) Mitch Halmu (May 28)
- Re: Mitch tries to defend his open relay again (was Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning)) Stephen J. Wilcox (May 28)
- Re: Mitch tries to defend his open relay again (was Re: ORBS (Re:Scanning)) Steve Sobol (May 28)
- Re: Mitch tries to defend his open relay again (was Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning)) Adam Rothschild (May 28)
- Re: Mitch tries to defend his open relay again (was Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning)) Steve Sobol (May 28)