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Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking)
From: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson () greendragon com>
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:15:24 -0400
We also were blocked by automated scanning from ORBS, about two years ago. I haven't ever checked to see whether the block was ever removed, since we made the decision that ORBS was the problem, and blocked ORBS scanning. "Greg A. Woods" wrote:
Do you have the mailer logs from those hosts?
After two years? Certainly not! Ever since the FBI investigation of one of our users, we dispose of the logs in days! They cannot request what we do not keep.
Can you prove that there was no other unauthorised use of them during the time *before* they were tested by ORBS?
How exactly does anyone prove a negative? Nobody could assert that we have ever been technically unaware. We had outside relaying blocked. We had a formal AUP since inception (1994), long before any of the johnny-come-latelies. We also used MAPS as soon as our software supported it. However, the reason ORBS cited at the time was that the server software (Stalker SIMS) allowed the % hack. I dunno why the % hack is a terrible problem -- support was _required_ in the olden days. But, it was obsolete. I believe that Stalker has since removed that feature. In short, methinks you protesteth too much.
Current thread:
- RE: Stealth Blocking, (continued)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking jlewis (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 24)
- Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) William Allen Simpson (May 24)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Joseph T. Klein (May 24)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Paul Vixie (May 24)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Mitch Halmu (May 24)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Greg A. Woods (May 24)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Christopher A. Woodfield (May 26)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Greg A. Woods (May 26)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) William Allen Simpson (May 26)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) William Allen Simpson (May 26)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Greg A. Woods (May 26)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) William Allen Simpson (May 26)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Greg A. Woods (May 26)
- ORBS (Re: Scanning) E.B. Dreger (May 27)
- Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning) Randy Bush (May 27)
- Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning) J.D. Falk (May 27)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Steve Sobol (May 27)
- Re: Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Christopher A. Woodfield (May 27)
- Re: ORBS (Re: Scanning) Albert Meyer (May 27)