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RE: Stealth Blocking
From: Derek Balling <dredd () megacity org>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:53:09 -0700
At 4:04 PM -0700 5/23/01, Mike Batchelor wrote:
Sorry, I just have to respond to this. If the solution to the open relay problem is to make all users/customers upgrade their mail software so that SMTP AUTH can be used instead, .. [snip]
There's no "make them upgrade" about it.The present installed base of MUA's is predominantly capable of doing SMTP AUTH out of the box, and every new PC sold with OE included free o' charge (yuk, but that's a different issue) increases the percentage of people who have ready access to the tools.
"Roaming" is not a right, its a privilege, and if you're one of the minority still using an MUA from 5 years ago that doesn't support it, then that's your own lookout.
Lessee... RFC 2487 is SMTP over TLS, dated January 1999, and RFC 2554 is SMTP AUTH, dated March 1999. So that's a wholesale upgrade of mail infrastructure that has been more or less completed (forced?) in just two years. IPv6 is described in RFC 1883, dated December 1995. And here it is, 6 years later...
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