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RE: The DSL business model
From: "Daniel Golding" <dan () netrail net>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:54:07 -0400
There is a simple solution for redundancy - buy redundant T-1 lines, run BGP, route a large enough block of space to be globally routable. This is like complaining that you can only get a Yugo for $8K instead of a Porche. You want the Porche, pay the cash. You want to spend $50 a month for DSL, live with the limitations of the technology and the product offering. Providers can't afford to provide DSL for the current $$$, with the present services. T-1's are cheap these days, compared to a few years back. - Daniel Golding
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of Christopher A. Woodfield Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:23 PM To: Roeland Meyer Cc: 'Steve Sobol'; Steve Schaefer; jmarr () twmaine com; hunter () compuhelp com; jpayne () sackheads org; nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: The DSL business model Not to mention that if you're looking to do BGP, most providers won't think of letting you run BGP over anything that's not at least a T1. When I was at Intermedia, we didn't even let customer do BGP over frame relay - they had to have a fractional T1 service at minimum. -CThe technology that can be faulted, and I sincerely apologizefor not beingclear enough on this, is that which prevents adequate redundancy at the end-nodes. The fact that 100,000 businesses can get lopped offby a singleprovider business failure is pretty sad. I've tried, for over ayear, to getredundant uplinks to an alternate provider (ISDN backup to xDSL). CIDR, prefix filtering, and cluelessness nail that effort every time.It doesn'tseem to matter that I am more than willing to pay for it. Itsimply isn'tavailable. But, it should be (I don't mean tinker-toy methods either). Before CIDR, it was. The past few quarters has shown hownecessary it is.Guys, this is a huge market gap, why isn't anyone filling it? -- ROELAND M.J. MEYER Managing Director Morgan Hill Software Company, Inc. TEL: +001 925 373 3954 FAX: +001 925 373 9781 http://www.mhsc.com mailto: rmeyer () mhsc com-- --------------------------- Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil () semihuman com PGP Public Key:
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Current thread:
- RE: The DSL business model Roeland Meyer (May 15)
- Re: The DSL business model Christopher A. Woodfield (May 17)
- RE: The DSL business model Daniel Golding (May 17)
- Re: The DSL business model Shawn McMahon (May 17)
- Re: The DSL business model Jared Mauch (May 17)
- Re: The DSL business model Shawn McMahon (May 17)
- RE: The DSL business model Daniel Golding (May 17)
- Re: The DSL business model Christopher A. Woodfield (May 17)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: The DSL business model Roeland Meyer (May 17)