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Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play
From: Brian Russo <brusso () phys hawaii edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:44:56 -1000
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:51:31PM -0800, Mike Batchelor wrote:
I'm pretty sure that I didn't want it to come to this, and I'm not entirely convinced that anyone should be doing it. But personal reservations aside, its happening. And I intend to see that its done as well as possible.Then why did you and David ignore my plea to cooperate with the extant TLD managers, with whom the new.net TLDs now collide? You could have launched the new.net TLDs with a bunch of in-place registrants already hosting sites under the TLDs you have collided with. You could have built a shared registration system that could have encompassed all the non-ICANN TLDs, and helped create something that would have really given serious challenge to ICANN. But instead, you chose to ignore me, and the others. Now we have a mess on our hands, for example, who is really the registrant of warren.family, the one who has held the Pacificroot warren.family for 4 years, or the one who just got warren.family from new.net on Monday?
But if they had done the net-friendly thing (created a partnership/coalition/whatever with existing alternate roots), that would have.. been the net-friendly thing. Sure they could have done this, instantly strengthened their position, and maybe created a serious enough force that ICANN may have felt it and reacted intelligently. As it is they're just another alternative root, albeit with more $$ than most. Will they survive? maybe. Given the fate of similar idealab! creations it's certainly not a statistical probability. ... Of course, who are we to challenge new.net, with their patent-pending technology for appending ".new.net." to hostnames, leading partnerships with exciting companies like earthlink! and they exist to a whopping 16 million users, are easily accessed by everyone else willing to fiddle with their resolver (well, not mail, sorry we need to invent a sendmail plugin for that one). Besides, nothing that ever came out of palo alto and was spun up by a "think tank" with an exclamation mark appended to their name ever went wrong, right? Last I checked guesstimates of internet users globally was something like 400 million people, ~30% were in north america, ~25% in europe, ~20% in asia/oceania, ~10% in south america. Maybe these figures seem high, but remember that only a considerable subset will be regular [ab]users. 16 million, probably an aggressive figure to start with, any way you look at it, nothing but a drop in the bucket. aaron: when you guys end up on fuckedcompany, can I get a deal on some of that nice hardware you [probably] have over there? Maybe a terabyte disk farm, or a highend server (I'll pay shipping). cheers, - wolfie. -- Brian Russo <brusso () phys hawaii edu> Debian/GNU Linux <wolfie () debian org> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member" <wolfie () lpsg org> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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