RE: MIX status (Re: New NAP Opening in Miami this week)

["Daniel Golding" <dan () netrail net>]

Apologies if my information was incorrect. My latest info was that Bellsouth
was not yet operational for peering, just for Layer 1 crossconnects. Is this
so?

- Daniel Golding

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
> Christian Kuhtz
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:48 PM
> To: David S. Diaz
> Cc: Mark Borchers; nanog () merit edu
> Subject: MIX status (Re: New NAP Opening in Miami this week)
>
>
>
>
> Hey gang,
>
> perhaps I can add a little value to this conversation.  Dave Diaz's is
> indeed correct, and Dan Golding ought to check his sources.
>
> What's the status?
>
>         In terms of core infrastructure, all 4 nodes are up and
>         operational.  Yes, we are taking orders.
>
>         Merit is installing RA software today, there was a delay with the
>         agreement between Merit and us.  Last info I have is that the plan
>         is to have public peering available in about a week or
> thereabouts.
>
>       What else would you like to know?
>
> Where can you get more info?
>
>         I'm told that info () bellsouthmix com or 1.866.554.6554 is a good
>         place to go for further info (and check the website, too).  Please
>         let me know if there's something glaringly missing.
>
>         You can also contact me directly with any questions you may have
>         and I'll try to answer them or find somebody who can.
>
> I think there's still quite a bit of confusion about services offered thru
> the MIX.  And there's a on-going effort to try to compare the MIX to NOTA
> as an apples to apples comparison.
>
> Well, it's really not that simple.  Sorry.
>
> Go ahead, and blame us engineers for trying to come up with
> something cool,
> different, and innovative. ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> --
> Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net> -wk, <ck () gnu org> -hm
> Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net,
> Atlanta, GA, U.S.
> "I speak for myself only.""
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:53:50PM -0400, David S. Diaz wrote:
> > My mistake, the RA is hot as or today at the Mix.  I was just
> > corrected off list.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Actually Bellsouth is hot.  I have been to the sites.  The fibre is
> > and hot.  Im sure there are things like the RA that may not be hot
> > yet if that is what is being referred to.  It's a good network with
> > fibre from different carries on diverse routes.  The interesting
> > prospect I think is that since they have nodes in locations like W.
> > Palm Beach and Ft. Lauderdale (not just miami) your local loop from
> > these areas would be significantly cheaper than running to that other
> > NAP in Miami.  This may be attractive for carriers or backbones in
> > that area.  The Mix nodes are also located at locations like
> > transoceanic fibre nodes.  Since it's a layer 1 network also, geeez
> > maybe it's good for cheap transport.
> >
> > I think the NOTA building that was built was built well.  32ft is not
> > bad for florida at all.  It seems like a fine colo with one concern,
> > it's in an evacation area.  Which means u need to have key people
> > there before the storm restrictions kick in or they arent getting
> > there.  As we know, no one gets rich building a nap, this is model
> > plans on making money from colo space which is also tough right now.
> > The other model is a, hey we dont care where u are at, use us for
> > peering and hmmm we can do wave service and local loops and whatever
> > else you can come up with for a dwdm/optical switched core network.
> >
> > It is going to be interesting to see how both naps evolve and develop
> > differentiating services.
> >
> > One negative with the mix-nap is that they used blue and orange
> > colors, Univ of Florida, for their tshirts. What an insult :-)
> >
> > dave
> >
> > At 4:10 PM -0400 6/28/01, Daniel Golding wrote:
> > > AFAIK, the Bellsouth MIX is a long way from operation.
> > >
> > > - Daniel Golding
> > >
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > >  From: owner-nanog () merit edu
[mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
> > >  Mark Borchers
> > >  Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:45 PM
> > >  To: nanog () merit edu
> > >  Subject: RE: New NAP Opening in Miami this week
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Two, actually.  Refer to http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0102/florida.html
> > >  <http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0102/florida.html>
> > >  
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > >  From: Larry Diffey [mailto:ldiffey () technologyforward com]
> > >  Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:41 PM
> > >  To: nanog () merit edu
> > >  Subject: New NAP Opening in Miami this week
> > >
> > >
> > >  According to this story
> > >  <http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2779717,00.html>  on
> > >  zdnet, there is a large NAP opening this week in Miami.  This NAP will
> > >  primarily be used to pipe traffic to and from Latin and South America.
> >  >
> >  > The facility is a whopping 32 feet above sea level!
> >  >

--
Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net> -wk, <ck () gnu org> -hm
Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S.
"I speak for myself only.""