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RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ?
From: Dave Israel <davei () biohazard demon digex net>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:37:29 -0400
Sadly, there are two good reasons to use telnet to connect to core equipment, even in this day and age: 1) You have legacy equipment that does not support ssh, and/or your vendor does not include ssh in every release of code (specifically, code you need to run.) 2) Your vendor's ssh authentication creates a secure connection, and transfers the password securely, only to then send the password, unencrypted, to an authentication server for verification, making ssh moot. -Dave On 7/31/2001 at 11:54:38 -0400, Daniel Golding said:
I believe that folks are having problems saying why they use SSH instead of telnet, because the best practice is simply so self-evident. SSH gives you a measure of protection against bad people sniffing out your passwords. Telnet does not. SSH is encrypted. Telnet is not. It's pretty easy - only use telnet if you must. Use SSH if you possible can. Of course, this also holds true for using scp instead of ftp, although scp isn't as widely supported, yet. - Daniel Golding-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of Mr. James W. Laferriere Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:25 AM To: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Hello All , Thank you for the disertations & insight into the possible methods of compromising an authentication attempt . But , I am really interested more in 'Why' each responsible indidvual(s) chose either telnet or ssh to manager their Core equipment . ssh 1 ) Has been the encrypted authentication . telnet 1 ) Has been legacy OS's / Equipment olny supporting telnet . On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:Hello All , I have charged myself with trying to find a statistic on how many individuals responsible for IP core equipment recommend telnet or ssh & why particularly . I will summarize .Tia , JimL +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | James W. Laferriere | System Techniques | Give me VMS | | Network Engineer | P.O. Box 854 | Give me Linux | | babydr () baby-dragons com | Coudersport PA 16915 | only on AXP | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
-- Dave Israel Senior Manager, IP Backbone Intermedia Business Internet
Current thread:
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ?, (continued)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Ariel Biener (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? mike harrison (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Bill Woodcock (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Randy Bush (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Alex Bligh (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Scott Francis (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Ariel Biener (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Mr. James W. Laferriere (Jul 31)
- RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Daniel Golding (Jul 31)
- RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Dave Israel (Jul 31)
- RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? alex (Jul 31)
- RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Dave Israel (Jul 31)
- RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? alex (Jul 31)
- RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? alex (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? David Howe (Jul 31)
- RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Alex Bligh (Jul 31)
- RE: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Ariel Biener (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Jared Mauch (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Charles Sprickman (Jul 31)
- Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ? Kevin Steves (Jul 31)