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RE: product liability (was 'we should all be uncomfortable with the extent to which luck..')
From: "Gary E. Miller" <gem () rellim com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
Yo Chance! On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Chance Whaley wrote:
I don't remember IBM or EDS being sued on the times when ATC has failed. Jeppeson hasn't been sued for issuing incorrect maps either. Software programmers arent sued when monitoring machines in hospitals fail. Oh that's right, because there are neat things called "Limits of Liability", "Gross Negligence", and "Malicious Intent".
Do some research. Just because you have not heard about it does not mean it did not happen. Jeppeson lost a BIG one after the AA crash in Cali. Jeppesson still has suits pending about Ron Brown's (US Commerce Secretary) going down in Kosovo. Technicare (a former client of mine) lost a BIG one after the runaway software on a CAT scanner fried a patient to death. Never heard of anyone dieing due to an ATC outage so that issue is still open. In any case, the comment I was replying to was about software not being able to hurt anybody. The US legal system found in two of the cases above that it can and has. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Ave, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem () rellim com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676
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