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Re: Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area
From: Brian Cashman <bsc () merit edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:49:16 -0400
William Allen Simpson wrote:
Various folk have tried. The one near the Tank plant (Warren) died for lack of customers. There was talk of one in Ann Arbor, but AFAIK it never got off the ground. I have email on it going back 7 years. Merit should start one out at Arbor Lakes. Plenty of bandwidth.... "John Palmer (NANOG List)" wrote:Are there any public peering points in or around Detroit, MI?-- William Allen Simpson Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
I'd be happy to consider such a thing. If you could forward to me what you have from 7 years ago I'd be interested in seeing that. The was before my time at Merit. Also, John, I'd be happy to discuss a private peering arrangement, if you're interested. A problem, I'll have to admit, is that Ann Arbor hasn't had very good external connectivity. This is changing and we (Merit) are in the process of implementing some high speed links (OC-48) out of town (and out of state). In general, I believe that Michigan hasn't had very good connectivity due in part (perhaps mostly) to its geography. Most carrier facilities enter in the southeast, go north to Detroit, then go west along I-94 until they leave Michigan into Indiana. It's been pretty rare to find fiber north of I-94 which only sits about 50 miles north of Michigan's southern border. The lakes on each side preclude a nice neat east to west fiber build. And don't ask about Michigan's upper peninsula. A different LATA with no available facilities (to my knowledge) across the Mackinac bridge. So, everything between the two halves of the state goes through other states. Michigan is a tough state to run a statewide network. At any rate, things are looking better. Anyway, I think that lack of good facilities has hampered the creation of a public peering point in Michigan. The facilities situation seems to be getting better so perhaps the peering point situation will too. Brian Cashman Merit
Current thread:
- Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area John Palmer (NANOG List) (Jul 10)
- Re: Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area William Allen Simpson (Jul 10)
- Re: Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area Brian Cashman (Jul 11)
- Re: Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area Jared Mauch (Jul 11)
- Re: Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area Steve Gibbard (Jul 17)
- Re: Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area Brian Cashman (Jul 11)
- Re: Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area Jeff Ogden (Jul 11)
- Re: Public peering points in the Detroit, MI Area William Allen Simpson (Jul 10)