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Re: Hidden name servers?


From: "Wojtek Zlobicki" <wojtekz () idirect com>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:44:07 -0500


I decided to do some RADB queries on the new dns server. Lo and behold,
different subnets and differents AS #'s for each.  I guess Microsoft has
learned a little from this experience.

RADB Whois query for 216.32.118.104

route:         216.32.96.0/19
descr:         NET-EXODUS-SantaClara
origin:        AS3967
mnt-by:        MAINT-AS3967
changed:       radb () bengi exodus net 19990322
source:        RADB

RADB Whois query for 32.96.80.17
route:         32.96.0.0/16
descr:         IBM Global Services
origin:        AS2685
member-of:     RS-COMM_NSFNET
mnt-by:        MAINT-AS2685
changed:       pdsides () us ibm com 19980826
source:        RADB

RADB Whois query for 207.229.152.20


route:         207.229.128.0/18
descr:         EnterAct Corp.
               407 S. Dearborn St.
               Floor 6
               Chicago, IL 60605
origin:        AS6555
mnt-by:        MAINT-AS6555
changed:       ablake () enteract com 19990725
source:        RADB

RADB Whois query for 213.161.66.158


route:              213.161.64.0/19
descr:              AboveNet
origin:             AS6461
mnt-by:             MAINT-AS6461
changed:            yifun () above net 20001214
source:             RADB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg A. Woods" <woods () weird com>
To: "Sean Donelan" <sean () donelan com>
Cc: <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Hidden name servers?



[ On , January 26, 2001 at 23:28:06 (-0800), Sean Donelan wrote: ]
Subject: Hidden name servers?

How do I get name servers added to the COM TLD zone file which
are not listed in the NSI Registry WHOIS database?

Be careful where you query.  There's not necessarily any relationship to
the times when the NSI WHOIS database is updated and the times when the
gTLD servers are updated.

The new NS records are in the right place now:

$ host -r -Z -t ns microsoft.com a.root-servers.net
microsoft.com.          172800  IN      NS      DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.com.          172800  IN      NS      DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.com.          172800  IN      NS      DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.com.          172800  IN      NS      DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.com.          172800  IN      NS      Z1.MSFT.AKADNS.COM.
microsoft.com.          172800  IN      NS      Z2.MSFT.AKADNS.COM.
microsoft.com.          172800  IN      NS      Z6.MSFT.AKADNS.COM.
microsoft.com.          172800  IN      NS      Z7.MSFT.AKADNS.COM.


In any case it is possible to list additional NS records in your zone in
order to achive higher reliability for your DNS in the case where the
registered servers are only intermittently available....  Note that this
doesn't help for long if the registered servers are totally unreachable
for longer than the TTL on the additional un-registered NS records.

--
Greg A. Woods

+1 416 218-0098      VE3TCP      <gwoods () acm org>      <robohack!woods>
Planix, Inc. <woods () planix com>; Secrets of the Weird <woods () weird com>



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