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RE: Second day of rolling blackouts starts
From: Michael <mbrunson () scantype com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:45 -0800
Your analysis ignores the profits received by the utilities when they sold the power plants to the generators at large multiples over book values over the last 4 years. * ---------------------------------------------------- * Michael Brunson ScanType Corporation * +1 (760) 438-5125 FAX: +1 (760) 438-4956 * "Services for the electronic ,WEB, and paper Publisher" * mbrunson () scantype com http://www.scantype.com -----Original Message----- From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer () mhsc com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:45 AM To: 'Sean Donelan'; nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: Second day of rolling blackouts starts Last night, on the news, I saw a clip of Grey Davis stating that he'd met with the four largest generator operator in the state. He emphatically stated that they (the operators) had said that they would force PG&E into bankruptcy unless they were paid, by mid-night, tonight. Grey Davis was trying to justify state bail-out of PG&E. The news commentator didn't otherwise reference that comment, but made some disparaging remarks about PG&E. The News station put it in the same context of the folks encouraging PG&E customers to not pay their bills. Basically, blaming PG&E for the problem. Note that; PG&E wouldn't owe such a larg sum if the generator charges (not costs) hadn't gone up over 700% in the past three months. PG&E is prevented from passing on their cost by law. Generator charges currently exceed allowed end-user rates by two orders of magnitude. There is plenty of generator capacity, if they would simply bring them online. AQMD (Air Quality Management District) is one excuse for keeping a healthy generator offline. Comment: What's wrong with this picture? I see the generators, holding a shotgun at PG&E's neck, and telling the state that they'll pull the triggers if the state doesn't come up with the dough. They're not even wearing a mask! Yet, no one is seeing anything wrong with this and they're acting like it's PG&E's fault.
-----Original Message----- From: Sean Donelan [mailto:sean () donelan com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:58 AM To: nanog () merit edu Subject: Second day of rolling blackouts starts California ISO has ordered a second day of rolling blackouts. Following the written emergency operations order, the blackouts will begin with the next blocks in each utility's EOP. This means people who experienced a rolling blackout first yesterday, are last on the list today. People who did not experience a blackout yesterday move up the list.
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- RE: Second day of rolling blackouts starts Roeland Meyer (Feb 24)
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- RE: Second day of rolling blackouts starts Kavi, Prabhu (Feb 24)
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