RE: Next NANOG

["Daniel Golding" <dan () netrail net>]

At this last NANOG, it seemed that the geometry, rather than just the size,
of the hotel made covering even a small portion of rooms extremely
difficult. The bar coverage was certainly nice. Interestingly, the Merit
folks had far more wireless access points than they actually used at this
last NANOG. The biggest problem was getting wired connectivity to all the
places that access points were needed. The Sheraton was a very old hotel
with primitive wiring. This may be easier at hotels of more recent vintage.
Which may be a lesson learned for future hosts.

- Daniel Golding

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of Jared
Mauch
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:08 PM
To: Thomas Kernen
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Next NANOG


        Also, it would be nice if the hotel had ethernet in the rooms
(in-house DSL or whatnot) or wireless sufficent to cover the hotel.

        If the conference moves to larger and larger hotels the wireless
covering the whole hotel isn't as possible.

        The IETF-49 density of access points was quite nice

        - Jared

On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 07:26:40PM -0400, Thomas Kernen wrote:
> As long as they keep providing power sockets in the rooms for those of us
who have laptops that can't survive 4 hours straight on
> battery.
>
> Thomas
>
> > Merit actually has enough access points (it really only takes 4-6 of
> > them... it's more of a user mindshare issue... hence the continuing
> > availability of laptop drops... note however that there are fewer at the
> > recent meeting (ie. we had almost 300 for one room at nanog 17).
> >
> > the cisco folks used about 24 access points(overkill) for the ietf in
> > sandiego that was enough to blanket the conference center and the hotel
> > below the 3rd floor...
> >
> > joelja
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Alex wrote:
> >
> > > I'd rather see NANOG/MERIT invest in like 15 or 20 base stations,
rather
> > > than wasting the time/money on the cat5 cable and switches -- etc.
> > >
> > > A wireless card costs all of $200 these days... everyone could just
get
> > > one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:23:19AM -0800, Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
> > > > > > Our big costs were US West curcuits into the hotel (6xT1 - we
could have
> > > > > > gotten away with 4xT1) and cable - we had lenghts cut to fit the
table
> > > > > > layout in the ballroom. We had switches & such on hand, and we
"borrowed"
> > > > > > terminal room machines from one of the student labs -
> > > > >
> > > > > If these costs were negligible, how much would it have cost?
> > > > >
> > > > > (assuming, for example, an 802.11b shot from a hotel to an
already-
> > > > > connected nearby building, donated transit,
> > > >
> > > > we actually tried to do a wireless run as a backup plan, but
couldn't find
> > > > an open conduit, and the hotel balked at the thought of our wiring
guys
> > > > coring 11 floors in order to get to the roof...
> > > >
> > > > I don't think nanog is quite ready to go wireless only in the
meeting room
> > > > although cutting down on the wired infrastructure deployed is
something
> > > > that's been worked on...
> > > >
> > > > > doing wireless-only in the
> > > > > conference and having some friendly vendor loan the machines for
the
> > > > > terminal room).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > --
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Philosophy of
> > > > the right, 1843.
> >
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> > Joel Jaeggli        joelja () darkwing uoregon edu
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> > arms.  Karl Marx -- Introduction to the critique of Hegel's Philosophy
of
> > the right, 1843.

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