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RE: multi-homing fixes
From: "Dmitri Krioukov" <dima () krioukov net>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:34:18 -0400
Bill, Your comments regarding the hierarchical routing may be valid, I believe, -- especially taking into consideration that the whole subject of this thread is just one of the drivers inevitably flattening the Internet topology :) But look what's going on in MANET, for example (LANMAR being particularly amazing). This at least suggests that some scenarios may exist where you have neither strictly hierarchical routing nor '2-32nd entries in the "DFZ"'. -- dima.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of bmanning () vacation karoshi com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:22 PM To: David R. Conrad Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: multi-homing fixesThe tragedy of the commons exist because there is a limited resource, incentive to do the wrong thing, and disincentives to do the right thing. Until there are disincentives to do the wrong thing,e.g., filterroutes, apply a charge to routes in the DFZ to encourageaggregation, etc.,incentives to do the right thing, and/or the limitations in the DFZ are removed, you _will_ get a tragedy of the commons. Rgds, -drc Speaking only for myselfThe limited resource is the fixed upper bound on numbers. There are concerns w/ the current technological limitations on mgmt of the route table and the weaknesses in the current routing assumptions. As friend Bush has indicated, the IRTF and in the IETF, much thought is being given to how to migrate from BGP to something new. Perhaps heirarchical routing itself is flawed and we need something new. This problem is not new. As a data point, I would ask that those whom are allowed to participate in the design discussions and are willing to be active in them, to take this request into those discussions. I would like to see the ability to have the routing system support 2-32nd entries in the "DFZ" (whatever that is... :) --bill
Current thread:
- RE: multi-homing fixes, (continued)
- RE: multi-homing fixes David Schwartz (Aug 27)
- RE: multi-homing fixes Patrick Greenwell (Aug 27)
- RE: multi-homing fixes David Schwartz (Aug 27)
- RE: multi-homing fixes Patrick Greenwell (Aug 28)
- RE: multi-homing fixes David Schwartz (Aug 28)
- RE: multi-homing fixes David R. Conrad (Aug 28)
- RE: multi-homing fixes David Schwartz (Aug 28)
- RE: multi-homing fixes David R. Conrad (Aug 28)
- Re: multi-homing fixes hardie (Aug 28)
- Re: multi-homing fixes bmanning (Aug 28)
- RE: multi-homing fixes Dmitri Krioukov (Aug 28)
- Re: multi-homing fixes Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 29)
- Re: multi-homing fixes Craig Pierantozzi (Aug 27)
- Re: multi-homing fixes Randy Bush (Aug 28)
- RE: multi-homing fixes Rafi Sadowsky (Aug 27)
- Re: multi-homing fixes Majdi S. Abbas (Aug 27)
- Re: multi-homing fixes Patrick Greenwell (Aug 27)
- Re: multi-homing fixes Majdi S. Abbas (Aug 28)
- Re: multi-homing fixes Randy Bush (Aug 28)