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Re: Measuring PoP to PoP latency--tools to use?


From: "Larry Diffey" <ldiffey () technologyforward com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:27:59 -0700


I will try not to violate my NDA here but there is a company that is nearly
finished beta testing a service (hardware based) that is designed to measure
latency, delay, jitter and packet loss.  The initial product is meant
specifically for the core but there is an edge product in development as
well.  I can't tell you anything more without getting myself into trouble.

Regards,

Larry Diffey




----- Original Message -----
From: "Jake Khuon" <khuon () GBLX Net>
To: "k claffy" <kc () ipn caida org>
Cc: <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Measuring PoP to PoP latency--tools to use?



### On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:38:25 -0700, k claffy <kc () ipn caida org>
casually
### decided to expound upon nanog () nanog org the following thoughts about
### "Re: Measuring PoP to PoP latency--tools to use?":

kc> how many ISPs use this and [how] do they
kc> find it helps them operationally?

I don't know any ISPs that us it.  I imagine some enterprise networks do.
I
played around with it in anticipation for using it to measure jitter but
found it of limited usefulness because if you have to deploy a box to do
localised collection of the data anyways you may as well run a better
jitter
probe from that unix box.


kc> it has been around for years, during which time
kc> i have heard no actual data wrt its operational utility,
kc> reckon that cisco would be responsive
kc> to ISP suggestions for improvements to it

I thought I read somewhere that Cisco was planning on dropping RTR from
the
featuresets.  Then again, I may have just imagined that.


kc> (if other router vendors have similar functionality
kc> they should probably speak up;
kc> we can put such features in the caida tool taxonomy)

Seconded...


kc> maybe a nanog panel on provider experiences/caveats
kc> on any of such vendor-provided functionality
kc> is not a terrible idea.
kc> mod all the anxiety involved in sharing such experiences

I remember at one time that on-the-router measurement features were kinda
frowned upon.  At least that's the general feeling I got from people.  Has
this attitude reversed?


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