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RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting
From: <measl () mfn org>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:41:40 -0500 (CDT)
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Vivien M. wrote:
Example: your local $ILEC has some Yellow Pages, where you are listed as an ISP. Some bad thiefs want to steal a T1 router or a Sparc 5, and figure an ISP would be a good place to get this equipment. They see your listing, break into your facility, and steal your hardware. Do you sue $ILEC for having set you up for being robbed? Now, MAPS publishes a listing of people who operate an open relay. You admit running an open relay. Someone else uses that listing to refuse mail from you. Why is MAPS in that second example more evil than $ILEC in the first one?
Intent Vivien, pure and simple. In the former case of the LEC, there was no _intent_ to inflict damage, as well as no reason to believe that the listing would inflict damage. In the latter case we have a listing whose *stated purpose* is to inflict damage.
Vivien -- Vivien M. vivienm () dyndns org Assistant System Administrator Dynamic DNS Network Services http://www.dyndns.org/
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin () mfn org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
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- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting, (continued)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Vivien M. (Aug 13)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Mitch Halmu (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Dan Hollis (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Mitch Halmu (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Dan Hollis (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting David Luyer (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting John Ferriby (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Matt Cramer (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting measl (Aug 14)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Etaoin Shrdlu (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting measl (Aug 14)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Patrick Greenwell (Aug 13)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting John Fraizer (Aug 14)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Jared Mauch (Aug 13)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting measl (Aug 13)
- RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting ad nauseum Geoff Zinderdine (Aug 13)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Adam Rothschild (Aug 13)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Wojtek Zlobicki (Aug 14)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Steven J. Sobol (Aug 15)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Rachel Warren (Aug 13)
- Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting Steven J. Sobol (Aug 15)