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RE: Static routes in an AS vs BGP advertised routes


From: Brandon Ross <bross () netrail net>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:15:36 -0400 (EDT)


On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Murphy, Brennan wrote:

If the theoretical AS advertised its /19 itself to the ISPs, and then
one of the /24 networks became inaccessible via the asteroid ISP,
wouldn't withdrawing the /19 take all traffic off of the asteroid ISP?

It sure would, but in the case of an asteroid strike, I'd assume that
there wouldn't be too much reachable through it.  In that case you could
simply continue to advertise the /19, but of course the stuff in the /24's
that are not reachable any longer will end up in the bit bucket.  The real
question here is, is there internal connectivity between the sites
advertising the more specifics, or are they islands?  If they are islands,
your only real/good solution is to advertise the more specifics
only.  With a bit of planning, hopefully you can aggregate all the
locations that are using a specific upstream into a single block to reduce
the number of routes required in the global table.  For example if you use
2 different upstreams, you might number all the sites on upstream A into
the top /20 and the rest into the bottom /20.

If there is internal connectivity, you might just depend on that to cover
some backup routes.

What if the outage was not an asteroid but something more common, like
uncontrolled testing of the network while the stock market is in
session? More specifically, what if there was reason to believe the
affected ISP could still deliver service in the unaffected areas?

See above, pretty much all of the possible cases are covered.

I have examined the responses to my query thus far and
it seems there are two options: 
 1) have both ISPs advertise both the /19 and /24s all the time
 2) change nothing til the asteroid hits. call the unaffected ISP
    and have them send out the /24 for the affected site

Option 1 creates larger route tables but automatically handles
the asteroid situation. Option 2 respects the desire for smaller
route tables but requires a manual process of phoning in a service
request.  In the meantime, the customers served by that connection
may receive sub-optimal routing, ie, if the /19 is still advertised
by the asteroid ISP, traffic reaches that AS and where does it go?

The bit bucket.

Am I understanding this correctly? If so, this seems to be a case where
being internet friendly conflicts with a theoretical entity's desire for
uptime.

That conflict is pretty typical.

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