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Re: MPLS VPNs or not?
From: Vadim Antonov <avg () exigengroup com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:44:53 -0700 (PDT)
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
Or, to put it differently.. there are a handful of fundamental assertions of your paper that I very much disagree with and consider flawed. The discussion of resource reservation is one of them. The sheer blanket statement mentality of your doc is inappropriate, IMHO, and doesn't do the problem space justice.
I'm known for making strong statements, you are right. However, so far I've heard no convincing argument against these positions; and I tried to solicit opinions by offering the opinions in question for the public review. Frankly, i was disappointed by the "let's wait and see which one works" attitude. As Randy was kind to point out, that attitude already gave us a slew of DOA networking technologies, to the tune of billions wasted. I would really like to enjoy a reasoned discussion, resulting not in relativistic opinions, but in real understanding of consequences of different design decisions. And, yes, I'm a strong adherent of K.I.S.S. principle, particularly where poorly understood and tightly coupled systems are involved. (As for the question "why didn't you go to IETF to express your opinion there" - my current line of work does not touch on IETF activities; and, besides, in my opinion, IETF ceased any useful design activity years ago, and became a forum for spreading marketectures). --vadim
Current thread:
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not?, (continued)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Andy Walden (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Christian Kuhtz (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Andy Walden (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Randy Bush (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Christian Kuhtz (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Randy Bush (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Christian Kuhtz (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vadim Antonov (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Christian Kuhtz (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Christian Kuhtz (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vadim Antonov (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vadim Antonov (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Robert Raszuk (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vijay Gill (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Robert Raszuk (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vijay Gill (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Robert Raszuk (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Tony Tauber (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Christian Kuhtz (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vijay Gill (Aug 07)
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- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Robert Raszuk (Aug 07)