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Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?)
From: Travis Pugh <tpugh () shore net>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:56:54 -0400 (EDT)
The one that surprises me is that carriers haven't introduced the concept of "off-peak" billing. Under my 95% billing from upstreams at shore.net, we could have packed the off-peak hours with data and not impacted our costs at all. It doesn't seem too difficult to shop for enterprise customers who need to move batch data from one place to another, sell them a circuit, and give them a sharply reduced rate as long as their peaks happen between 12:00 am EST and 6:00 am EST. All I'm doing at that point is filling the "valleys" on my transit graphs with free data, since I'm paying for (almost) peak utilization anyway. -travis On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Leo Bicknell wrote:
There is a much simpler game that costs the ISP a lot more money. Fortunately, it's not a common business model. Let's say I am a TV network, and I want to simulcast a TV show once a week to the Internet. I might need 2-3 Gig of capacity during the simulcast, but the rest of the time I need none. So, I buy 95% service, stream for 4 hours a month, which is thrown away in any of the counting schemes put forth so far, and pay nothing. Lather, rinse, repeat with each TV show. There's no incentive to buy a bundle of service and stream all the shows (more approximating continuous usage) from one place. Fortunately this application is small, but if you were a web hoster you could do the same thing with multiple providers. With 20 providers, you could move your bandwidth with that provider only 5% of the time, paying nothing for service with any of them. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440 Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request () tmbg org, www.tmbg.org
Current thread:
- How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Sean Donelan (Apr 19)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Greg A. Woods (Apr 19)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Leo Bicknell (Apr 20)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Travis Pugh (Apr 20)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Greg A. Woods (Apr 20)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Mike Leber (Apr 20)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Travis Pugh (Apr 20)
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- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Sean Donelan (Apr 19)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Greg A. Woods (Apr 19)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Eric A. Hall (Apr 20)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Sean Donelan (Apr 19)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Greg Maxwell (Apr 20)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Greg A. Woods (Apr 20)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Richard A. Steenbergen (Apr 20)
- Re: How to game the system (was Re: What does 95th %tile mean?) Richard A. Steenbergen (Apr 20)