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RE: What does 95th %tile mean?
From: "David Schwartz" <davids () webmaster com>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:18:02 -0700
Same algorithm, same raw data, different 95% answers, both valid, yet one is twice as large as the other. Great outcome for a billing system isn't it?
Any billing scheme based upon statistical sampling will, with some probability, err in the favor of one party or the other randomly. But it is important that the customer understands that he is being billed based upon statistical sampling and thus there are no "exact" measurements. I've looked at other ways and can't find any better. Billing based upon NetFlow, for example, is still statistical sampling since NetFlow loses a percentage of flows. For example, one of my VIP2-50's says: 368351628 flows exported in 12278484 udp datagrams 33838 flows failed due to lack of export packet 269989 export packets were dropped enqueuing for the RP 108825 export packets were dropped due to IPC rate limiting Billing based upon total bytes transferred tends to create similar problems. Do you bill based upon bytes transferred per day? Per month? If so, it's still statistical sampling if you have some amount of 'paid bandwidth'. And you can't collect this data from interfaces because interface rates include local traffic, which (for example) grossly overbills customers with newsfeeds. I think there would be a market for a device with two GE interfaces that accounted for everything that passed through the two interfaces in a reliable and configurable way. It would have to be capable of fault-tolerant operation with multiple units. It would have to be free too. ;) DS
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