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RE: availability and resiliency
From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () MHSC com>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:30:12 -0700
It refers to the percent uptime of a host or site. 99% is two "9"'s (2x9?) and 99.9% is three nines. Getting a single host to meet more than three nines (99.9%) can be a challenge ( <8.76 hours outage, per year), but can be more easily met with multiple hosts in a site. Four nines (99.99% uptime, <0.88 hours annual downtime) is extremely difficult for a single host, less difficult for internal data centers, and (given lots of $$$) a bit easier for a internet site (using multiply redundant hosts). Five nines (99.999%, <5.26 annual minutes down) is almost impossible for a single affordable host to meet. This is where we enter the world of High-Availability (H-A) systems. These are usually high transaction flow critical systems and are found in large corps, telcos, and reliable internet sites. At this time, only governments are willing to part with the required cash to build systems meeting six nines (99.9999%, <0.53 minutes annual downtime), or better (NASA, NORAD, US Space Command, etc). Usually, this is done using multiple site redundancy. Hosts meeting three nines, or better, typically have redundant power supplies and integrated UPS, bootable RAID for the OS, redundant NICs, and SMP CPU configurations. -----Original Message----- From: Leo Nelson [mailto:lnelson () axient com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:08 AM To: 'nop () alt net'; Andrew Bangs Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: availability and resiliency Pardon my ignorance, but what the heck does a "9" refer too? Is it a UPS, rack, floor space, circuit... Thanks in advance -leo -----Original Message----- From: Lionel Lauer [ mailto:longword () newsguy com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:54 AM To: Andrew Bangs Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: availability and resiliency On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:39:04 +0100, Andrew Bangs <andrewb () demon net> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 02:39:40PM -0600, Irwin Lazar wrote:Hi all, Does anyone know if a template exists for what it takes to provide 5
9's of
availability, 4 9's etc.for Internet data centers? Specifically I'm
looking
for something that would say "if you want 5 9's of availability,
here's what
you need to do", and so on.For 5 9s you need: 1) Lots of money 2) Lots of clue 3) Lots of luck 4) Lots of balls You can do 4 9s with any 3 of the above.
Too true. But you forgot to include 'halfway-clued management' - without that you haven't got a hope in hell of even getting three 9's. ;) -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- availability and resiliency Irwin Lazar (Sep 28)
- Re: availability and resiliency Michael Shields (Sep 28)
- Re: availability and resiliency Andrew Bangs (Sep 29)
- Re: availability and resiliency Lionel Lauer (Sep 29)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: availability and resiliency Leo Nelson (Sep 29)
- Re: availability and resiliency Majdi S. Abbas (Sep 29)
- RE: availability and resiliency Leo Nelson (Sep 29)
- RE: availability and resiliency Roeland M.J. Meyer (Sep 29)
- Re: availability and resiliency Andrew Brown (Sep 29)
- Re: availability and resiliency Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 29)
- Re: availability and resiliency Adrian Chadd (Sep 30)
- Re: availability and resiliency Jay Tribick (Sep 30)
- Re: availability and resiliency Andrew Brown (Sep 29)