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Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming?
From: adrian () creative net au
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:06:35 +0800
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000, Peter A. van Oene wrote:
Its these cases I'm concerned with. In my mind, irrespective of the comments on the functionality of DNS for this purpose, I see littleotherchoice.DNS is not the droid you're looking for. Using DNS response times to predict likely TCP performance is silly for at least as many reasons as using BGP aspath lengths to predict likely TCP performance is silly.That being said, if anyone has better ideas on how to provide for high availability to millions of web sites worldwide, please let me know.TCP performance is affected by congestion symmetry, since TCP uses the spacing of ACK packets to control the spacing of data packets. While there's no way to guarantee congestion symmetry, one of the leading indicators of whether you will have congestion symmetry is "whether you have path symmetry." Furthermore, the leading indicator of whether you have path symmetry is "whether the outbound flow's first hop is the same as the incoming flow's last hop."Just a quick note in clarification, I am less interested in intelligently directing the traffic to the closest or most optimal server farm that I am in purely ensuring that the traffic can be balance between sites that sit within different AS's.
How do you propose to do this? It is a non trivial solution - if you don't believe me, go ask someone trying to do it (eg Akami). People forget the magic tenant things are built on here - "The less the control you have on a network, the harder you have to work to deliver a given quality of service", where quality of service is something other than 'terrible' . Adrian
Current thread:
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming?, (continued)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Peter A. van Oene (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Dana Hudes (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Daniel Senie (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Travis Pugh (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Paul Vixie (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Paul Vixie (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Marc Slemko (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Paul A Vixie (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Randy Bush (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Peter A. van Oene (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? adrian (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Peter A. van Oene (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Randy Bush (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Gary E. Miller (Mar 13)
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- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Randy Bush (Mar 14)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Marc Slemko (Mar 14)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Pete Templin (Mar 14)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Peter A. van Oene (Mar 14)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Adrian Chadd (Mar 14)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Hank Nussbacher (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Scott McGrath (Mar 13)