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Re: inter-NOC communications (was:Re: Definition of Congestion)


From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: 31 Jan 2000 17:34:36 -0800


On Mon, 31 January 2000, "dave o'leary" wrote:
Attempts to "standardize" inter-NOC communication happened a couple of
times in the early 90's in the IETF, but it got too ugly, with too many
barriers (basically people not wanting to expose dirty laundry).  I fear
that attempts to do so now when the providers are *really* competing with
each other (as opposed to back in the old daze when we were all
friends :-) will suffer the same fate, other than on a pairwise basis between
NOCs that cooperate well with each other anyway.

According to a Telcordia survey of 25 "nontraditional" communication companies
(ISPs, wireless, cable, etc) 82% of the respondents said they informed
customers about outages and service degradation.  If this number seems high,
remember this is a self-reported survey, not neccessarily what actually
happens when a company has a severe problem with their network.

About 40% of the respondants said they informed industry groups and other
companies about the most severe and selected other problems.  Again,
based on self-reporting.

One interesting statistic was about 5% of the survey sample said they
didn't even tell other people in their own company about severe outages
or degradations of service.  I'm guessing this was a statistical artifact,
like the 5% of voters who report they don't know for whom they voted when
asked in exit polls on election day.  But maybe some companies really
don't tell even other parts of the same company when they have a problem.

Note: the survey was completed on July 9, 1999; and may not reflect changes
in company policies after major outages since last summer.





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