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RE: Alternatives (was Re: whois broke again?)


From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:02:03 -0800


From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
[mailto:bmanning () vacation karoshi com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 6:47 AM

bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 5:11 PM

While I think that Bill Manning's DNS TXT suggestion is clever, and
nicely distributed, it requires a lot of effort.

  actually, I think both efforts have about the same level
  of effort.  In one case, its concentrated in a single place,
  in the other, its all over the place.

The nice thing about central is that things will get done, or not done,
consistantly. You tend to strike a closure point at some time. In the
distributed "all over the place" model, things may never be
consistent, nor
will they ever be complete. It is also difficult to enforce quality
standards.


      Hum, is this an argument for reconsituting "Ma Bell"?

No it isn't, you mistake my intentions. I was just weighing out each end of
the spectrum.

      One of the strengths of the Internet is its distributed nature.

Tell that to DOC/NTIA/ICANN. I'm with Stef and the ORSC in this, aka; the
opposition (see: www.dnso.net).

      And the trend is in this direction with the addition of new
      IP aware products (cell phones, networked "gadgets", et.al.)
      Trying to retain a centralized structure is (IMHO) doomed to
      failure.  Its better to have broadly available standards that
      can be enforced at the provider/subscriber boundary and then
      let the market "bloom" rather than have a single forcing function
      that everything must run through before proper operations can
      occur.

Finding that sweet-spot has been elusive.

      We might as well argue for the reconstitution of the InterNIC
      and the abolishment of RIPE, APNIC, ARIN. You'll get "things ...
      done, or not done consistantly." and will "strike a closure point
      at some time".

Actually, RIPE/APINIC/ARIN is too centralized for my taste. <grin>

      Striking the balance is hard but I expect that the trend is away
      from centralized services.

Not according to DOC/NTIA/ICANN <sigh>.




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