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Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC
From: John Fraizer <John.Fraizer () EnterZone Net>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 01:37:01 -0500
At 04:27 PM 1/19/99 -0600, Phil Howard wrote:
So many people keep harping on the point of having name servers first. But that's a silly and moot point. The name servers may well be behind a firewall and the use of the domain name is intended for internal use and needs to be registered externally for the same reason one should use allocated address space from ARIN instead of picking random addresses. This is like telling people they have to be routed on the Internet to be able to get an address allocation.
1) You should have domain servers for ANY domain you register that live in NON-RFC1918 space. Otherwise, Why register the domain at all? If it's for use behind the firewall, why not use internic.net or whitehouse.gov? You say "Because they want to receive email at the domain!" Well, to receive email, the rest of the world has to be able to find the mx records and to do that, your domain servers have to live in NON-RFC space and we have now completely and totally blown your first point out of the water and made it, in your own words, "moot." 2) DNS servers that are behind a firewall are useless in the context you describe above. 3) You should NEVER pick random addresses. Please refer to RFC1918. 4) If you don't intend to be routed on the global internet, you SHOULD be required to use RFC1918 space. NOBODY should be allocate routable address space for internal, off-net use.
been included with the request. Other ideas include limiting the number of outstanding requests per contact. If you have more than N unpaid domains, you can't regiater any more on that contact until you either pay up on some or delete some.
This would be a moot effort. What is going to stop the speculators from just generating random email addresses for admin, techincal and contact addresses. It is very simple to route *@domain.com to a single email box. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ML.ORG is gone. Check out http://www.EZ-IP.Net - It's *FREE* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your *FREE* Parked Domain account at http://www.EZ-Hosting.Com ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Fraizer | __ _ | The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:John.Fraizer () EnterZone Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation PGP Key fingerprint = 7DB6 1CA2 DAA6 43DA 3AAF 44CD 258C 3D7E B425 81A8
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- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC, (continued)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Phil Howard (Jan 18)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Daniel Senie (Jan 18)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Edward S. Marshall (Jan 18)
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- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC John M. Brown (Jan 19)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Rich Sena (Jan 19)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Phil Howard (Jan 19)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Daniel Senie (Jan 18)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Phil Howard (Jan 19)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC sthaug (Jan 19)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Phil Howard (Jan 19)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Dean Robb (Jan 19)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Phil Howard (Jan 18)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC John Fraizer (Jan 19)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Phil Howard (Jan 20)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Derek Balling (Jan 20)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Phil Howard (Jan 20)
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- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Jay R. Ashworth (Jan 20)
- Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC Brett Frankenberger (Jan 20)
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- Should Extranets be congruent with the Internet? (was Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC) Jay R. Ashworth (Jan 20)