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Re: Verio Decides what parts of the internet to drop
From: Jeremy Porter <jerry () fc net>
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:09:41 -0600
Who exactly would these operators pay? one check per asn? Who is a backbone, etc, etc. Great fun if you are a lawyer I suppose. Really I think most of the operators are too busy building their networks to worry about how to give more money to lawyers and accountants. I believe there will be a BOF on "micro" allocations at the next Nanog meeting, I would be interesting in seeing the parties that benifit from this, to come up with a proposal that can determine fairly and with simple metrics determines who gets one. This is not exactly a new problem, the ARIN advisory council has been looking at it for 2 years, and no one has yet been able to come up with a policy that network providers, registries and end users could live with. In message <013601bf3db2$8714e5f0$ecaf6cc7 () lvrmr mhsc com>, "Roeland M.J. Meye r" writes:
That depends. Many operators of /24s would be happy to pay, within reason. This would provide plenty of cash to upgrade routers. Right now I am looking at ~$1000/Gbps from various colo providers, for a site that is expected to go over 1Tbps (Yes, that's a Tera-bit per second), in 18 months. The site, with Dev/QA/Stage/Production, could easily burn a /24, but no more than that. (One of our requirements is a provider with LOTS of dark-fiber and cold-potato routing, as a result.) We are looking into distributing the load geographically, which also covers Big-D disasters. Now we have a multi-homeing problem unless we use the same provider in both locations. Business-wise, this is not acceptable, to be locked-in, in this way. Considering the amount of money involved, do you still doubt that my client would be willing to pay reasonable fees, to announce their /24? Don't you think that the presence of this cash would cover the check? We've already established that the only technical issue is the capital expense ($cash$) required to upgrade backbone routers.-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 5:20 AM To: Tony Li Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: Verio Decides what parts of the internet to dropWouldn't it be nice if backbones got around to simply charging for annoucements and quit this arbitrary filtering?thanks geoff. :-) and how would charging for announcements have ameliorated the 129/8 disaster? ahhh, when they tried to announce those 50k /24s, the check would have bounced! randy
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