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RE: multi-homing


From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 12:01:22 -0800


PS. The ONLY provider I can get to my Colorado Springs facility (Black
Forest) is USWest/Qwest.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Roeland M.J. Meyer
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 11:01 AM
To: 'Alex Rubenstein'; 'Dana Hudes'
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: multi-homing



No, but it depends on the capacity requirements. We looked
into self-homed
vs. colo. Given that;
1) Most eCommerce projects need to be completed inside of six months.
2) Connectivity needs to happen in the first 3 weeks of
project kick-off.
3) Telco WAN circuit delivery, for large capacity, takes
anywhere from 6 to
18 weeks per circuit (depending on RBOC ... could be MUCH longer).
4) Facility build-out takes even longer (3 to 6 months).

For large capacity sites, colo is the only way, with
potential self-homing
within two years. It just can't happen faster than that. Also, smaller
providers are out, because of public peering point congestion
and that is
usually their only avenue. Large providers, with their own private
dark-fiber network, leaving only last-mile traffic to the
public Internet,
appears to be the only way to go <sigh>.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu
[mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Alex Rubenstein
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 9:54 AM
To: Dana Hudes
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: multi-homing






On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Dana Hudes wrote:


The pressure is on to use co-location service only from
Big Players.
Indeed, remember the big fight over Exodus peering arrangements?
Someone (GTE?) decided that Exodus should pay them for transit and
pulled peering. since no other large network pulled such stunt the
result was that GTE customers were inconvenienced more than Exodus
customers.  The message is loud and clear. If you want your server
farm to have good access, put it in a good co-location
facility in the
US run by (or connect your co-located equipment to) a very large
provider who has good redundancy not only of their network
as a whole
but of their colo facility (a co-lo facility with only one
WAN circuit
does not have good redundancy even if the LAN is
exceedingly good and
fault-tolerant etc.).

I'd disagree whole-heartedly (partly because I am not a
huge, national
tier-1).

Wouldn't you rather connect your equipment to a smaller
company, that is
potentially more flexible, has more clueful people, has
better pricing,
and is multihomed to maybe 3 or 6 or 9 backbones?










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