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Re: WebTV.Net: Censorship Central?


From: Eric Germann <ekgermann () yahoo com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:36:37 -0800 (PST)

If Paul will add 208.222.122.40 to the RBL

and

Merit will use the RBL

I'll bet many NANOG readers would buy a WebTV unit just to get rid of
Bob...

Bob, many pray that you would be added to the RBL, nightly as a matter
of fact, before supplications for ones own health.

Drop it.





---Bob Allisat  wrote:


 <http://fcn.net/no>

 Microsoft's Web TV Network, with hundreds of thousands of
subscribers,
 uses the real-time black hole list censorship software. Very
disturbing
 since it niether tells it's clients their mail and WWW is being
censored
 nor offers them the choice as to whether or not to allow this
censorship.
 Outside their lame anti-spam statement there is no indication of any 
 censorship anywhere else <http://www.webtv.net/antispam/>.

 Perhaps the people using WebTV would appreciate knowing the fact that
 Web TV censors their access. Or, even better, maybe Web TV could
offer
 them the choice as to whether their black list is off or on (default
 to off). I'd be royally pissed off if I used WebTV and found out
every-
 thing I did was behind some one fellow's idea of right and wrong.
Shame
 on Web TV Networks! More info at:

 <http://fcn.net/no>

Paul Vixie writes:
<http://maps.vix.com/rbl/webtv.html>
If you received an error while trying to send mail to WebTV, 
please click here. 
* (next page)
Having problems sending to WebTV?

Although WebTVÊ(webtv.net) uses the RBL, they also have their own 
list of IP addresses they reject mail from. Just because they 
reject mail from a site does not mean that site is on the 
MAPSÊRBL.

You can check to see whether your IPÊaddress is on the RBL by 
checking <URL:http://maps.vix.com/cgi-bin/lookup> ; enter your 
IPÊaddress in the form.

If you do not know what your IPÊaddress is, please contact your 
system administrator or ISP. Complaining to us about WebTV's 
actions is, unfortunately, largely useless, as we have no control
over how they (or anyone else) runs their systems.

Please contact WebTVÊfor information on why your address block is 
on their list, and how to get it removed.

 Bob Allisat

 Free Community Network _ bob () fcn net . http://fcn.net
 http://fcn.net/allisat _ http://fcn.net/draft





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