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Re: Journal of Internet Disasters


From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb () clark net>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:29:39 -0500

At 11:04 AM -0800 11/17/98, J.D. Falk wrote:
On 11/16/98, Dave Crocker <dcrocker () brandenburg com> wrote:

That does not mean no oversight.  It merely means finding non-governmental
methods of achieving the oversight.  I suggest, for example, that a
competent and careful effort of the type Sean is suggesting would go a
long, long way towards helping things, by providing public and clear
explanations of problems.  Yes, it is possible that some ISPs would choose
to ignore the public disclosure, but let's worry about that problem after
give simple, public discourse a try.  Such an approach has a good track on
the Internet.

      Furthermore...I'd be willing to bet that if the FCC or whoever
      got a lot of complaints, they'd form an oversight committee.

      Why not just form one ourselves, making sure that it's answerable
      to the needs of the Internet community?

--

Let me begin this by saying emphatically that I am _NOT_ proposing to put
any Internet operational procedures under the Official Standards
Infrastructure. (When I did OSI at COS, I always asked my boss that I
understood what the OSI infrastructure is, but I was unclear about the
superstructure.  Ian said that he would be as good an example as any.)

In non-IP networking, there are certainly things that go beyond national
boundaries and are operationally critical.  RF spectrum allocations, for
example, are a different matter than ISO or ITU protocol development. True,
the UN has no internal means of sending a missile at a transmitter on an
illegal frequency.

To me, there's a reasonably close analogy between the Internet routing
space and the global RF spectrum.  There are collisions if people use the
same frequency/prefix (I am _not_ going to get into line-of-sight issues).
Is someone familiar enough with the procedures for dealing with
inappropriate spectrum use to see if there might be any parallels for
Internet operations?


Howard,

who remembers a presentation at AFCEA where an Israeli Air Force general
was asked about the best electronic countermeasures they had found to use
against Soviet-bloc radar.  He suggested that very few jammers, range gate
stealers, etc., really compared to a laser-guided bomb down the feed horn
of the antenna.




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