Re: Hold on to your news servers

[Dean Anderson <dean () av8 com>]

I don't know why you'd need to know who he gets news feeds from.  Cancel
leakage would be obvious enough to determine who is getting feeds from Karl.

I presume you'd complain to a) his internet providers/peers, b) his news
feeds that leak cancels, and possibly c) anyone who is known to get a feed
from him.  And their providers/peers.

I'd probably start with MCS which provides Karls service, and go on to
good.net, nap.net, etc, presuming Karls boast about MCS not caring to help
stop his leakage is true.  Then repeat with the sources of the leakages.

I think as long as Karls system is completely separate from usenet, it
could be fine.  His scheme can possibly work if there is never a server
that carries both regular Usenet and Karl's feed.  But that is an
unreasonable proposition. The problem is that someone will want to cross
post karls feed into their feed. 

Remember, the Soviet Coup against Gorbachev failed (in part) because they
couldn't manage to partition or shut off usenet news feeds, and news of
events in Moscow leaked out.

                --Dean


At 10:13 PM 11/13/1998 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 09:42:41PM -0600, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Dean Anderson wrote:
> > > Anyone who cancels someone elses post who is not a moderator or the
> > > original poster should lose their account/job at ISP/etc.
> > >
> > > So lets start sending in complaints...
> >
> > And you'd complain to...who? Karl's an independant entity now.
>
> Correct :-)
>
> What's even more fun is that since the system doesn't EMIT any articles
> it consumes (it emits only cancels, sourced there) you can't figure out
> where it gets its feeds from.... good luck getting the system's feeds
> cut off under those circumstances :-)
>
> --
> -- 
> Karl Denninger (karl () denninger net) http://www.mcs.net/~karl
> I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give
> up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization.
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