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Re: The Great Exchange
From: Tom Perrine <tep () SDSC EDU>
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:25:39 -0700
The moving finger of Hal Murray, having written:
Hal> I think the right question is: How much local traffic will there Hal> be and is that enough to make local shortcuts cost effective? Hal> Part of that discussion may involve what "local" means. Actually, I think a more important question will be "*where* do we mean by local"? In large metro areas, or any place with a large *number* of ISPs, there will be advantages to local interconnects. Period. Even if there is distance-insensitive pricing for their connection to a MAE-thing, I would think that they would rather save that precious bandwidth for traffic that really needs to go to the MAE-thing. It could reduce their need to buy a bigger pipe to that major interconnect, just to carry that local traffic "up-and-back". I also can't see how a local interconnect could not be cheaper than a long-haul up to a major interconnect. Considering that many of the locals are co-ops, or non-profits, with cheaper(?) local circuit costs, lower "membership" rates, etc. Also, it is a "commons" thing: If there are no "local" interconnects, then the MAE-things will always be on the verge of oversubscribed in relation to the traffic carrying ability of the technology. Are the major interconnects running at 20% or 80% (or 99%) of the capacity of the underlying fabric? I don't know for sure, but I can hazard a good guess :-) What will happen when the next 10 ISPs buy OC3+ circuits into a major interconnect? If the on-line poplulation is small, or if a majority (or oven if a large minority) of the on-line population is served by a single ISP, then a local interconnect makes less sense. Also, don't forget to count univerities as ISPs; UCSD was the largest single ISP (if you consider local customers) in San Diego until cable modems got started. Now, even though cable modems are more common, UCSD is still one of the major "targets" of those cable modem users. I'm sure that this not an unusual situation. I think that the key is the "diversity" factor of the traffic, in addition to the basic population size. --tep
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