RE: Fwd: FW: Removal from APNIC lists

[Eric Germann <ekgermann () cctec com>]

North America != Asia Pacific

ergo:  take it elsewhere.

At 09:23 AM 5/20/98 -0500, Jim Fleming wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 20, 1998 9:17 AM, Perry E.
Metzger[SMTP:perry () piermont com] wrote:
> @
> @Eric Germann writes:
> @> There is a God.
> @
> @Now if only someone could get him off of the IETF and nanog lists, and 
> @maybe a few others...
> @
> @.pm
> @
>
> According to the APNIC Annual Report, the data base of information
> is not accurate[1]. Despite this, the APNIC received an additional allocation
> of over 16 million IPv4 addresses in April of 1997. That appears to be the
> same time that the APNIC paid the IANA $50,000 in service fees. This also
> appears to be at a time when the APNIC had not used the addresses it
> already had.
>
> Why does a private company like APNIC, set up in an off-shore haven
> like the Seychelles, and operating out of Tokyo, with apparently no taxes
> being paid to Japan[2], be allowed to obtain additional IPv4 address space
> with apparently no justification and an admission of poor record keeping
> while U.S. ISPs and other companies around the world are put through
> the ringer for a few IPv4 addresses ?
>
>
> Jim Fleming
>
>
> ==================================================
> http://teckla.apnic.net/annual_reports/1997/resource_status.htm#c4_1
>
> Percentage
> Used
> -------------------------
> 0%     61.x.x.x <-------- April 25, 1997
> 0%     169.208.x.x
> 0%     169.209.x.x
> 0%     169.210.x.x
> 0%     169.211.x.x
> 0%     169.212.x.x
> 0%     169.213.x.x
> 0%     169.214.x.x
> 0%     169.215.x.x
> 80%    202.x.x.x
> 80%    203.x.x.x
> 12%    210.x.x.x
> 12%    211.x.x.x
>
> @@@@ http://teckla.apnic.net/annual_reports/1997/financial_status.htm#c3_2
>
> "Service fees which consisted of the APNIC payment of
> US $50,000 to the IANA in April, 1997;"
>
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>
> [1] @@@
http://teckla.apnic.net/annual_reports/1997/future_directions.htm#c6_1
> "Database Cleanup
> The current registry database system is has significant amounts of
> incorrect data. This is a significant issue as the registry database is
intended
> to be the location of authoritative information on which organizations
control
> which resources. It is likely that unless the registry database system is
revised,
> conflicts will arise when organizations attempt to obtain Internet
connectivity
> with historically allocated resources but which no longer have up to date
> information in the registry database."
>
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>
> [2] @@@ http://teckla.apnic.net/annual_reports/1997/other_activities.htm#c5_2
>
> "APNIC Headquarters Relocation
>
> Around first quarter 1997, APNIC began to investigate what would be required
> to hire additional staff for the APNIC office in Japan. After lengthy
consultations
> with various organizations, it was established that the question of
whether APNIC
> needed to pay tax in Japan was somewhat indeterminate. Specifically,
according
> to two of three accountancy firms, APNIC should pay taxes, while the third
indicated
> exactly the opposite. After significant discussion, it was decided to
evaluate the
> costs of doing business in Japan vis-a-vis doing business in other Asia or
Pacific
> Rim locations."
>
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> -

> Jim Fleming
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