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Re: IP over SONET considered harmful?
From: Yakov Rekhter <yakov () cisco com>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 09:33:17 PST
Alan,
Subject: IP over SONET considered harmful?
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I'd hoped that MPLS would solve this problem, but from reviewing the drafts I believe that the LSRs _WILL_ decrement the TTL.
To be more precise, the issue is that an ingress LSR is required to copy IP TTL into Tag-TTL, *and* the egress LSR is *required* to copy Tag-TTL into IP TTL. The problem you mentioned in your message would be solved if the egress LSR would just decrement IP TTL by 1, rather than copying Tag-TTL into IP TTL. However, doing this introduces another problem - it breaks traceroute. And there are enough folks in the MPLS WG who think that the ability to traceroute through all the LSRs is an "unalienated right". In view of the above here are some of the possible avenues: (a) try to get "rough consensus" with the MPLS WG to allow decrement IP TTL by 1 on egress (rather than copy Tag TTL into IP TTL), or (b) talk to your favorite vendor(s), and ask the vendor(s) to put a "knob" that would decrement IP TTL by 1 on egress (rather than copying Tag TTL into IP TTL). Yakov.
Current thread:
- IP over SONET considered harmful? Alan Hannan (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Havard . Eidnes (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Alan Hannan (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Yakov Rekhter (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Joseph Malcolm (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Paul Ferguson (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Naiming Shen (Mar 23)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Paul E. Erkkila (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Joseph Malcolm (Mar 20)
- RE: IP over SONET considered harmful? Bill St. Arnaud (Mar 20)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Sean M. Doran (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Kent W. England (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Paul Ferguson (Mar 20)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Scott Brim (Mar 21)
(Thread continues...)
- Re: IP over SONET considered harmful? Havard . Eidnes (Mar 20)