Re: $110,000 for Gated Source Code

["Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>]

At 01:35 AM 6/8/98 +0000, brad wrote:
> > So far, I've had a large number of questions about a statement I made here
> > in NANOG. The statement was made in passing, while I was looking for
> > sources for something that would run BGP4 and allow us to transition from
> > static single-homing to dynamic multi-homing. Rather than answer, yet many
> > more inquiries, I am posting the answer here in NANOG, to fore-stall
> > further such inquiries.
> >
> > MHSC prefers open-source whenever we can get it and prefer to run
> > reference-standard code. This is why we run sendmail v8.8.8, qpopper, BIND,
> > and others. 
>
> I see no need for open source when it is quite obvious you do not
> understand anything that you are compiling.

Before inserting your foot further into your insulting mouth, visit my
personal web-site. We also have a couple of PhD CS's around here somewhere,
oh yeah, they're working on paid-for commercial projects. How much money
have you stolen from the NSF to-date?

> > We are a Caldera VAR and our servers are built up from Caldera
> > Open Linux Standard edition, with about 30 add-ons <groan>. We *do* have
> > BRU, Netscape, and other commercial binaries that have been bought, but not
> > before attempting to find acceptable reference-standards. We have also
> > provided DewPoint/Caldera with input towards an Enterprise Server
> > distribution for Linux.
> Linux.. the choice of a gnutered generation.

Bigotry and snobry, a sure sign of insecurity and penus envy. What's the
matter, didn't get laid last week-end?

> > Anyway, we've applied for an ASN and ran into the BGP4 requirement. Ergo,
> > we were looking for the reference-standard BGP4 implementation, which is
> > GateD. We (I) was *very* surprised at the attitude exhibited at
> > <http://www.gated.org>. Very much anti-commercial. But, that does not
> > matter to me as I have $other$ things to worry about (Paying the rent
> > around here is one of them <sigh>). Ergo, having run *that* trail to
> > ground, I posted a query here in NANOG, that Dean Anderson, Shane Wright,
> > Craig Labovit, and others have answered.
>
> Well, you can probably write your own BGP implementation in about
> a month.  This would cost you considerably less than $110k assuming
> a conservative valuation of your time ($4.25-$5.00/hr).  

Buddy boy, you can't afford me <sheesh>! 

> > I now have gated v3.5.9, for Linux, and am building it now. I'll probably
> > run into trouble, as I do with most things that don't have a configure
> > script, or have an otherwise non-standard build process (Why is it that
> > *only* the academic originated stuff is such a PITA? <sigh>).
>
> LINUX#make
> sh: make: command not found
> LINUX#Ihatethesefuckingcomputersasdf3252r23t2g
> sh: Ihatethesefuckingcomputersasdf3252r23t2g: command not found
> LINUX#goddamn these academic types 
> etc..

Jeez, you can't even spell "damned" right. Also, in that context God is
capitalized.

Now, if Bradly wants to really play with something easy, install
Apache-SSL.mod-perl on a Linux box. Or anything else with a configure script.


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