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Re: Smurfing
From: ken emery <ken () cnet com>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:26:56 -0800 (PST)
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Dean Anderson wrote:
At 5:52 PM -0500 2/13/98, Randy Bush wrote:o All router administrators on the immediately reachable Internet needs to turn off directed broadcasts on their router interfaces. It's conceivable that "a significant portion of all" would do as well, but the magnitude of this problem boggles the mind. First of all, we'd need to distribute the appropriate amount of clue to all the corners of the net where this needs to happen. Maybe, just maybe, we'll get there sometime (I'm an optimist!).why should this not have become the default mode for all vendor diustributed router code?Because routers used by regular companies on their intranets generally need to propogate directed broadcasts so that protocols and software that use directed broadcasts in a subnetted environment will work properly. Its only at the borders of other companies (such as ISP's) that directed broadcasts have to be turned off.
If the ICMP packet is permitted in to the internal network then it doesn't matter where the network is, only that it have sufficient bandwidth to generate the necessary traffic out to the border (from the smurfer's POV). This is why it needs to be turned off on all LAN segments (assuming it isn't used for other things).
Even ISP's that use things like HPOV SNMP host discovery internally need to permit internal directed broadcasts. But they shouldn't go outside your network, and you probably don't want them coming in from the outside to your internal network.
How often is SNMP host discovery done? Can't HPOV be directed to just discover on a specific network? bye, ken emery
Current thread:
- Re: Smurfing, (continued)
- Re: Smurfing Paul Ferguson (Feb 15)
- Re: Smurfing Randy Bush (Feb 16)
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- Re: Smurfing Jay R. Ashworth (Feb 16)
- Re: Smurfing Alex P. Rudnev (Feb 16)
- Re: Smurfing Paul Ferguson (Feb 17)
- Re: Smurfing Bradley Reynolds (Feb 17)
- Re: Smurfing Tatsuya Kawasaki (Feb 17)
- Re: Smurfing Alex P. Rudnev (Feb 18)
- Re: Smurfing Paul Ferguson (Feb 18)
- Re: Smurfing Dean Anderson (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing ken emery (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing Dean Anderson (Feb 16)
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- Re: Smurfing Jay R. Ashworth (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing Craig A. Huegen (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing David J. Schmidt (Feb 15)
- Re: Smurfing Steve Camas (Feb 15)
- Re: Smurfing Jon Lewis (Feb 15)
- Re: Smurfing Craig A. Huegen (Feb 13)
- Re: Smurfing Craig A. Huegen (Feb 13)